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    3 years ago

    I am not defending them

    that’s all you do here. not really anything more.

    nearly 100 year old examples and thus drawing false analogies.

    what’s false analogies? Contemporary tankies justify most genocides done under the USSR.

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        because they can easily rationalize away some age old stuff.

        That’s what they always do. It is called gaslighting. Felix, dev of lemmy, justified Assad and how he cracked down something that started as a simple protest and eventually resulted in mass murder. They will reply with very long threads why [something about CIA] [something about shit libs] [something about the enemy of my enemy is my friend] [something about anti-ameria and justifying any other imperium that takes position against US] and because of that it was necessary.

        Nothing more then gaslighting that follows all the time the same patterns.

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            what ever genocide it is,tankies will always justify it if it is done by a country that they claim to be an ally.

            It is an ideological concept that you can’t disproof with logic. It is an dogma, that justifies itself.

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                That’s not what I’m saying here. I’m saying that their mind set is dogmatic. That does not mean that it’s permanent, but if you aim to create a dialogue that gives a chance to question such dogmas, it is useful to understand they exist. If you create a dialogue where the dogma can just justify itself, it will deepen their ideological believes.

                You want to question their dogmas? Understand how they function first.

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                    remembering history is important. learning from history is important. narratives are strong influence of our culture. history effects narratives and many tankies use history for their justification.

                    I play with narratives