“He could have done that, but it didn’t happen. Yes, the question probably wasn’t pressing at the time because there was no full-scale invasion.

“But our territories were occupied.”

of course, we all know what Trump did do: he tried to extort Zalenskyy for dirt on Hunter Biden by withholding relief funding that the US Congress had already authorized to send to Ukraine. He was even impeached over it.

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    • @lntl
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      Are you asking me if land is more important than lives? The answer is lives everytime.

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        If you give up your home to a conqueror and go elsewhere, he will soon appear again and take your new home from you as well.

        Conquerors must be stopped. It is the only way to deal with them.

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          I don’t think the people of Donetsk will flee. They’ll probably just pay taxes to Putin rather than Zelensky.

          When the Romans conquered Europe, they left the locals in power and setup taxes.

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            These aren’t professional Roman legionaries. From what I’ve heard, Russian troops routinely murder, rape, and steal from civilians.

            And Russia is not Rome. Russia is an oppressive dictatorship led by a homicidal madman who craves power and uses his people as cannon fodder without a second thought. If he conquers your town, he’ll force you to fight and die to conquer the next town.

            The new boss is not the same as the old boss, and that is why the Ukrainian people are fighting so hard to stop him.

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              Yikes. I don’t think this is going anywhere. Best wishes

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          We seen to disagree here. believe the best thing a leader can do when invaded is protect the lives of as many people who the leader is responsible for as possible.

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              Depends on if the invaders plan to genocide the people or not. The threat of genocide should influence a leader to fight. The cost of genocide outweighs lives lost in conflict.

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                  If the lives lost in genocide are more than those lost in a successful defense, yes. I don’t think I understand what you’re getting at.

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