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I would love to see a parallel universe, where collective transportation obtained the upper hand. Where countryside railroads are still operating, and where roads/highways haven’t consistently led to the expropriation of millions of people worldwide, and to the current car-oriented urban nightmare. See Ivan Illich for a demonstration that car-oriented urbanization is hostile and counter-productive, as opposed to what he calls “convivial tools” (empowering technologies).

  • DessalinesA
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    43 years ago

    I think Japan used to be the world leader in high speed rail, but now its down to #5, behind China, Spain, Germany and France.

    This wiki chart is pretty sick

    China’s highspeed rail progress is wild:

    • @ksynwa
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      33 years ago

      Any idea what kind of fuel these trains use?

      • DessalinesA
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        33 years ago

        I can’t find numbers on percentages of diesel vs electric ones, but I did find this:

        China has over 100,000 kilometres (62,000 mi) of electrified railway.[42] With most trunk line heavy freight and long-distance passenger trains operated using high power electric locomotives, typically in excess of 7,200 kilowatts (9,700 hp) of power output.

        • @ksynwa
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          23 years ago

          Nice. Thanks very much.

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