• michaelrose
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    I don’t think anyone imagines WW2 could have been averted if only we had placated Hitler harder why should ww3 be avoidable by placating Putin?

    If anything this is ideal Russia is breaking their back on our weapons but retains a trivial route out without any declared conflict.

    If we could have convinced them this would happen ahead of time we could have avoided conflict entirely. As it stands the biggest obstacles to eventual peace is the notion that if Vlad just waits it out Republicans may regain control and collaborate.

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      If your understanding of this conflict is so braindead that you think “Putin is exactly like Hitler” and “Selling more weapons that will leave the land uninhabitable for decades is the key to peace” then you’re beyond help. I cannot overstate how stupid and ignorant you come across saying things like this. You are not immune to propaganda, even if you are about to assert that everyone who disagrees with you is “brainwashed” or a “Russian shill” as a way to protect your own ego.

      You should leave, this isn’t the place for you. The only two options are that you either get banned or you learn something new and challenge your preconceived notions. And I know how much liberals hate the latter, so just save yourself the trouble.

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        Selling more weapons that will leave the land uninhabitable for decades

        You mean like the thousands upon thousands of landmines around Ukraine?

        Depleted Uranium is, you know, depleted. It’s not radioactive.

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      You have been grossly misled.

      Russia is not the Nazis, America and its vassal Ukraine are. They are the ones, after all, who always touted and celebrated Nazis, integrating them politicially and militarily with great fervor.

      WW3 was avoidable save US “interventionism.” We have been stoking conflict and suffering across the entire world for a century, including yes in both Ukraine and Russia.

      Lastly, Russia is not “breaking their back” on anything, if you have been paying attention to your pro-Western sources even they are finally meekly admitting the war has always been a disaster for them. 5 dead Ukranians for every 1 dead Russian. The economic war killed not the ruble but the dollar. US/NATO have exhausted their munitions, manpower, and money, with no viable long term strategy to recoup it. We are already halfway through WW3, and the tides are shifting. Dresden will burn and the Volkstrumpen will strangle each other for bread.

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      Russia did everything it could to avert war. Not the same situation at all.

      Putin isn’t on some rampage to conquer the world for Lebensraum. Russia knows that if Ukraine joins NATO, nukes will be set up just 800 km from Moscow. If you don’t understand why this is an issue, then you don’t understand what is going on.

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        I barely had patience for liberals at the start of the conflict. There’s a certain amount of grace to give when a major event happens and people are trying to piece out the background after not paying attention for years. Now? That doesn’t exist anymore. Liberals are simply choosing to remain ignorant at this point when it comes to Russia-Ukraine.

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        “Doesn’t look like anything to me.”

        Libs remind of the Hosts from Westworld who would be incapable of processing certain information even when watching it. They have the “West can do no wrong” premise drilled into their heads and no amount of evidence will make them see otherwise.

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        It’s for us to read and these illiterate fucks to never find out about. Merkel and any number of people may admit it was just a stall, what liberals can’t read can’t affect them, apparently.

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      because Hitler believed in an ideology that ultimately logically demanded the total conquest and subjugation/extermination of all other peoples of the earth and is thus a special case.

      Putin who is not a nazi and has not at any point expressed such beliefs is not Hitler and comparing everyone you don’t like to Hitler is soft holocaust denial as it effectively minimises the Nazis crimes

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      Funny how in your WWII parallel the country that banned all unions and opposition parties (including the communist party), the one who ethnic cleansed their Russian population, run by the descendents of Nazi collaborators (Bandera supporters), today’s Ukraine is your USSR.