The activity is being served a meal, not being served a meal with the ingredients you want. It looks like you’re intentionally driving the conversation toward a useless semantics debate. Nobody’s left out from a cafeteria serving plant-based food only.
I agree that the other person and I are going round and round… which is useless.
Although I understand the point that everyone can derive protein from plant based diets, to be fully inclusive all diets must be considered.
anecdotally I had a student who for allergy reasons he could only eat 5 items, one of which was grilled chicken (salt was ok, no pepper, no oil).
I am fully on the side of inclusive diets, and although I may get attacked for defending animal protein on a vegan platform (I am not trolling) I have many happy vegan regulars who know that I prepare good, honest vegan dishes without prejudice (unlike the typical Ramsey style vegan hating ranting chef).
All this to wrap up my original point: when dealing with students in a diverse environment they often will say one thing while acting completely opposite!
At least you admitted your biases. Unfortunately I just dont have the same confidence you have that you really have your finger on the average college students pulse. And in the end the point you made was extremely trivial: sometimes kids say one thing and do another.
"exclusion of one group is more inclusive " "anecdotal evidence is irrelevant compared to my cherry picked articles "
lol just because you made a word salad doesn’t make your vegan point
People who eat animal products are not excluded if there is none. Do you only ever eat meat and have nothing to eat if its not a dead animal?
How hard is it for you to understand that nobody is excluded for not serving what their little meatflake brain desires?
I honestly don’t think you understand what that word means.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/exclusion
The activity is being served a meal, not being served a meal with the ingredients you want. It looks like you’re intentionally driving the conversation toward a useless semantics debate. Nobody’s left out from a cafeteria serving plant-based food only.
I agree that the other person and I are going round and round… which is useless. Although I understand the point that everyone can derive protein from plant based diets, to be fully inclusive all diets must be considered. anecdotally I had a student who for allergy reasons he could only eat 5 items, one of which was grilled chicken (salt was ok, no pepper, no oil). I am fully on the side of inclusive diets, and although I may get attacked for defending animal protein on a vegan platform (I am not trolling) I have many happy vegan regulars who know that I prepare good, honest vegan dishes without prejudice (unlike the typical Ramsey style vegan hating ranting chef). All this to wrap up my original point: when dealing with students in a diverse environment they often will say one thing while acting completely opposite!
At least you admitted your biases. Unfortunately I just dont have the same confidence you have that you really have your finger on the average college students pulse. And in the end the point you made was extremely trivial: sometimes kids say one thing and do another.
So tell me, which group is excluded? Religious carnivores? Or is it only you starting to cry if no chicken died for your tendies?