This is my opinion, not a final decision by the admin team:
It’s pretty clear that this request is politically motivated and this user does not intend to moderate the community in good faith. Therefore, my vote is to deny this request.
You don’t have to dance around the topic, and doing so absolutely do not help your case: the “spammer” being referred to here is clearly @yogthos@lemmy.ml, and I very much do not agree with your assessment of his activity on !europe@lemmy.ml. I do not think his activities constitute spamming, right-wing, or any violation of the rules.
It might not be openly right-wing, but it is pushing the exact same agenda as right-wing European parties (AfD, Front National, PVV etc.) do. I think it is mostly done due to being terribly uninformed and trying to stan current Russian interest, but the fact remains that he is using right-wing media sources to push his agenda.
I don’t really mind someone else taking over moderation of the community as I am mainly concerned about the total moderation vacuum on that community, but to be honest if the community continues to be a home to spreading blatantly false miss-information I will not be interested in contributing any further.
The fact that right-wing parties captured the narrative is precisely the problem here. And I’ve explained this repeatedly to you in many different ways. Furthermore, vast majority of sources I post are mainstream western media. The only time I reach for non-mainstream sources is when the mainstream chooses not to cover significant events. Please stop smearing me here and attributing to me some right wing agenda. I have stated my position very clearly and you intentionally misrepresent it.
At best you are being a useful fool by pushing the same agenda as populist right-wing parties. Left wing European parties have tried and failed to capture the same demographic for years and it isn’t working (and it is IMHO counter productive).
And you are very selectively choosing right-wing western mainstream media as those are the only ones pushing the same right-wing populist agenda.
I’ll say it once again, since you can’t seem to get this through your head. Unless the left is able to engage people on their material conditions then the right will. What demographic exactly has your approach claimed. If what you were advocating was effective we wouldn’t be seeing the rise of the right wing movements all across Europe. And I’m linking to media that actually talks about the economic and energy situation in Europe. You just want to pretend this problem doesn’t exist.
There is an economic problem due to various factors, but over-simplifying it on lack of cheap energy is only playing into the hands of populist right-wing demagogues and is also preventing the urgently needed transition to renewable energy sources.
And just to repeat: what you are advocating has been tried by left parties in Europe for years and it isn’t effective either.
I’m not over simplifying anything. I’ve repeatedly said that other factors matter, but it’s obvious that energy prices jumping by a huge amount is a major factor. Claiming this only only plays into the hands of right-wing populists is nonsense, especially so in the context of having discussions on Lemmy of all places.
Transition from fossil fuels to nuclear and renewables is absolutely necessary, but that’s going to take years to do. People are suffering today, and there needs to be an answer for these people. Blocking the discussion on the subject is counterproductive. Instead of pretending that the problem isn’t real, which makes the left look like clowns, people need to acknowledge the problem and provide left wing solutions to counter the ones the right promotes. It’s frankly shocking that you’re unable to comprehend this.
Trust me, we had the same discussion for a long time already in Europe. Its not as easy as you think it is, and the rise of the populist right is largely because the center-left parties thought they could do what you propose.
Nowhere did I say that I think this is in any way easy. What I’m saying is that unless the left can connect with people on tangible material issues that affect them then majority of people will go to people who do. The reason the right is gaining popularity is precisely because they talk about things that people are experiencing personally. The center-left parties you talk of are opportunists, they don’t have real convictions, and they offer no solutions. This is why they have no popularity.
Again, if what you advocate for worked then it would be the left growing and not the right. Maybe try doing some self reflection instead of spending your time being condescending and smearing people. Why is your approach not working, why is it that the right and not the left growing. What will happen if material conditions continue to deteriorate, where will people flood to?
This is my opinion, not a final decision by the admin team:
It’s pretty clear that this request is politically motivated and this user does not intend to moderate the community in good faith. Therefore, my vote is to deny this request.
You don’t have to dance around the topic, and doing so absolutely do not help your case: the “spammer” being referred to here is clearly @yogthos@lemmy.ml, and I very much do not agree with your assessment of his activity on !europe@lemmy.ml. I do not think his activities constitute spamming, right-wing, or any violation of the rules.
It might not be openly right-wing, but it is pushing the exact same agenda as right-wing European parties (AfD, Front National, PVV etc.) do. I think it is mostly done due to being terribly uninformed and trying to stan current Russian interest, but the fact remains that he is using right-wing media sources to push his agenda.
I don’t really mind someone else taking over moderation of the community as I am mainly concerned about the total moderation vacuum on that community, but to be honest if the community continues to be a home to spreading blatantly false miss-information I will not be interested in contributing any further.
The fact that right-wing parties captured the narrative is precisely the problem here. And I’ve explained this repeatedly to you in many different ways. Furthermore, vast majority of sources I post are mainstream western media. The only time I reach for non-mainstream sources is when the mainstream chooses not to cover significant events. Please stop smearing me here and attributing to me some right wing agenda. I have stated my position very clearly and you intentionally misrepresent it.
At best you are being a useful fool by pushing the same agenda as populist right-wing parties. Left wing European parties have tried and failed to capture the same demographic for years and it isn’t working (and it is IMHO counter productive).
And you are very selectively choosing right-wing western mainstream media as those are the only ones pushing the same right-wing populist agenda.
I’ll say it once again, since you can’t seem to get this through your head. Unless the left is able to engage people on their material conditions then the right will. What demographic exactly has your approach claimed. If what you were advocating was effective we wouldn’t be seeing the rise of the right wing movements all across Europe. And I’m linking to media that actually talks about the economic and energy situation in Europe. You just want to pretend this problem doesn’t exist.
There is an economic problem due to various factors, but over-simplifying it on lack of cheap energy is only playing into the hands of populist right-wing demagogues and is also preventing the urgently needed transition to renewable energy sources.
And just to repeat: what you are advocating has been tried by left parties in Europe for years and it isn’t effective either.
I’m not over simplifying anything. I’ve repeatedly said that other factors matter, but it’s obvious that energy prices jumping by a huge amount is a major factor. Claiming this only only plays into the hands of right-wing populists is nonsense, especially so in the context of having discussions on Lemmy of all places.
Transition from fossil fuels to nuclear and renewables is absolutely necessary, but that’s going to take years to do. People are suffering today, and there needs to be an answer for these people. Blocking the discussion on the subject is counterproductive. Instead of pretending that the problem isn’t real, which makes the left look like clowns, people need to acknowledge the problem and provide left wing solutions to counter the ones the right promotes. It’s frankly shocking that you’re unable to comprehend this.
Trust me, we had the same discussion for a long time already in Europe. Its not as easy as you think it is, and the rise of the populist right is largely because the center-left parties thought they could do what you propose.
Nowhere did I say that I think this is in any way easy. What I’m saying is that unless the left can connect with people on tangible material issues that affect them then majority of people will go to people who do. The reason the right is gaining popularity is precisely because they talk about things that people are experiencing personally. The center-left parties you talk of are opportunists, they don’t have real convictions, and they offer no solutions. This is why they have no popularity.
Again, if what you advocate for worked then it would be the left growing and not the right. Maybe try doing some self reflection instead of spending your time being condescending and smearing people. Why is your approach not working, why is it that the right and not the left growing. What will happen if material conditions continue to deteriorate, where will people flood to?