Trump becoming president again in 2024 or Trump actually getting busted?

I think Trump getting busted might be a bit funnier and a bit more… Illuminating of the sincerity of the MAGA reactionaries.

I wanna see Trump get busted and the MAGA reactionaries do basically NOTHING in response.

  • @Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml
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    152 years ago

    Trump escalated weapons deals to Ukraine. Despite his rhetoric and that one time he went rogue and tried to withhold military aid for his own electoral reasons he was just as much a puppet for the ruling class as the current liberal admin is. The world would likely be in a similar state.

    • @mylifeforaiur@lemmygrad.ml
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      He didn’t escalate shit. If anything, he obstructed the CIAs plans with his desire to alter the deal so it would benefit trump personally.

      • @aworldtowin
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        162 years ago

        This is something MAGA people and Tucker Carlson love to say, but it’s just not true. Trump absolutely escalated with Russia, increasing sanctions, doubling down in Syria, hell Trump even pushed Putin to the point of saying “if you invade Venezuela Russia will come to their defense” because he was talking about a full on invasion. Obviously Russia wasn’t fond of what Trump did to Soleimani in Iran and the tanking of the Iran nuclear deal.

        Let’s also not forget Trump’s ardent defense of the Ukrainian coup regime, arming and supporting the right sector and Azov goons. This idea that Trump was “easy on Russia” or didn’t escalate tensions is bullshit pushed by russiagaters. If it was true whatsoever then Trump would have ended the conflict in Donbass caused by the US puppet regime. Obama may have been president during the coup, but imagine how tame things would be today if Trump backed the Minsk agreements instead of arming fascists

        • @Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml
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          I’m not sure why a simple web search is beyond the people defending Trump here.

          Lethal military aid to Ukraine literally began under his administration, something that did not happen under the Obama administration. Just because Trump wavered and wasn’t consistent at times doesn’t mean that things didn’t escalate.

          • @CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml
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            102 years ago

            He litterally had the exact same strategic goals as the current administration. To make Europe pay more and sink them further into vassalage. They both used the threat of Russia and the security of NATO to achieve this.

                  • @CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml
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                    102 years ago

                    It is nothing short of a sick comedy that communists are out here saying Trump had better foriegn policy when it is strategicly the same.

                    Trumps tactics were less effective than Biden’s but really Trump gave Biden the assist. Trump threatened NATO, which leaves Europe vulnerable to Russia. Biden then escalated tensions to play off of this and of course pivoted towards NATO. Now Europe is mobilizing for war while its currency is being devalued.