Plastics are an incredibly depressing topic. I have questions!

  • I have heard that the price of virgin plastic is so cheap because important inputs are produced as byproducts of other petroleum processing. If those byproducts weren’t being made into plastic, would it be easier or harder to handle their environmental impact?
  • Plastic has a lot of properties that are desirable for packaging. I’m sure there are many of those properties that can be reproduced by analogues if those analogues are produced at scale and thus cost-efficient. What do materials scientists think would be harder to get right?
  • Do governments fund materials research into plastic replacement?
  • Where do economists think it would be most effective to tax plastics to reduce their use / environmental impact? (I.e. at which stage of the production pipeline?)
  • MayaOP
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    23 years ago

    Do you know any specifics about the byproducts? Totally agreed on the best thing being reducing petroleum use.

    It’s very hard to know what things would be like without / with less plastic because right now plastic’s sucking the air out of the room when it comes to developing alternatives, and no one’s incentivized to make reducing packaging convenient.

    • @ksynwa
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      3 years ago

      From the oversimplified summary I know of, first crude oil is made to undergo fractional distillation to separate its components. The part that is used for plastic manufacturing consists of reactive hydrocarbon compounds like naphtha, ethylene, propylene etc. It isn’t until polymerisation and condensation that we get inert polymers which we call plastics. So the byproducts are much better than plastics in terms of longetevity (spell check isn’t helping here).

      • MayaOP
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        13 years ago

        Ah this is super helpful!! I’ve always wanted to know but not quite enough to get back into a chemistry headspace