• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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      42 years ago

      Anybody with a couple of brain cells to bang together understands that it’s relative economic damage between the west and Russia that matters. While Russia relies on nice to have things from the west like iPhones and Starbucks, the west relies on bare essentials like food and energy. If shit hits the fan in Russia next year, then it’s hitting the fan on a much bigger scale in the west as well.

      It’s also absolutely fantastical to think that Russia can’t replace whatever it is relies on from the west with equivalent products from China and India which constitute world’s major manufacturing hubs.

      Russia has already gone through two large economic crises in the 90s and in 2014. There is no indication that this crisis will be any worse than that and people in Russia know what to expect. On the other hand, people in Europe have not experienced anything of the sort since WW2, and European leadership took no steps to prepare for the crisis foolishly thinking that Russia would collapse within a month of western sanctions.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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          32 years ago

          Russia is self sufficient in food, energy, and all the essential manufacturing. There’s literally nothing Russia imports from the west that can’t and isn’t already being replaced. Chinese exports to Russia have exploded already. Whether Russia wants to be dependent on China and India or not is beside the point, which is that they are doing it.

          Meanwhile, Europe has no readily available alternative to cheap energy, fertilizer, and food that was imported from Russia. The only energy solution for Europe is to create alternative energy infrastructure such as mass nuclear, this will take years to do and require massive amounts of energy to implement. How fertilizer and food will be replaced remains unclear as well.

          Massive strikes and protests are already happening in many countries such as UK, Czech republic, France, Italy, and Germany. Public discontent is growing rapidly, and will only get worse come winter. Turns out putting Ukrainian flags in your social media bio is different level of commitment from freezing and starving in the winter.

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              32 years ago

              Seems like that’s rapidly becoming a minority opinion. And of course, Europe is already bending the knee to US quite willingly.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                  32 years ago

                  The reason Europe is in the crisis it’s in is precisely because European political class is owned by US and acts in the interest of US instead of its own people. US used Europe like a sacrificial pawn in its geopolitical games against Russia and now people in Europe get to pay the price. Europe could’ve had a friendly and mutually beneficial relationship with Russia after USSR collapsed in the 90s. Instead, Europe chose to act as a foot soldier for US.

                  People are protesting because their standard of living was predicated on having access to cheap energy from Russia. Propaganda is what you’re doing by claiming it’s anything other than this.

                  At the end of all this, Europe will have no choice but to bend the knee. Your demagogy is going to fall on deaf ears when people can’t heat their homes or get enough food to eat.