I assume it not completely locked down, but does it mean Google doesn’t have access to everything like I assume it does with Android?

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      Right, SafetyNet. I haven‘t tried banking apps (or anything else that requires SafetyNet) with microG, but SafetyNet is just a flawed system in general. Even on GrapheneOS, with the proprietary Google services running in a sandbox, only SafetyNet basic integrity can be achieved, because the OS needs to specifically be whitelisted by Google order to get full integrity. It‘s a ridiculous monopolistic move by Google. I just never use banking apps on my phone, I have a dedicated small and light laptop only for banking, that I can also take on a trip if I need to do anything related to banking on the go. I do this for extra security, so my banking is separated from all my other digital activities, but I‘ve heard that basic SafetyNet integrity that be achieved on GrapheneOS is enough for many banking apps.

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        Can confirm that a lot of good banking apps and other secure verification app works on graphene without Google. Some shittier banking apps still need the sandboxed Google play.

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          As I said, I don’t do banking on my phone, but if I needed to use a banking app and it was unsupported on GrapheneOS I would honestly consider switching to another bank. The system of banking is flawed as well, that’s why I try to use Monero as much as possible.

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              When they do this, I just laugh at them and tell them them to stop pretending. Is this rude? Maybe. Is it the truth? Definitely.

              Edit: It’s not just banks. Insurance companies and publicly traded corporation in general are just there to screw you over. I’m not a socialist or anything like that but I gotta say: The capitalist system is flawed. (Every system is flawed, a perfect system doesn’t exist but it’s pretty bad with capitalism)