The year is 2008 and I had been using Mozilla Firefox for two years after my painful but inevitable breakup with Internet Explorer. But, out of school and professional necessity, I had to make the swi
If you had read the reasons, you know why the UI script has copyright, but 100% of the Vivaldi script is auditable, and even the UI part is moddeable by the user, it’s only prohibet to fork it to use it in another browser. Proprietary, yes, but not the same as in Chrome or Edge, with a big proprietary part over Chromium, but completly closed source not auditable, where nobody knows for what they are good for.
Thanks. I understand your effort to promote Vivaldi, and I too loved Opera and its UI. but, sadly, Vivaldi is proprietary software and uses a bunch of google services and dependencies, it even is based on google’s blink rendering engine, so it is not only far from being a privacy/ethical browser, it is walking in the wrong direction, helping google incrrase its monopoly and not letting people use their freedoms with software. If you don’t work within Vivaldi yourself, I suggest you check browsers like Librewolf, which I recommend for tech savy people. For most people I just recommend Firefox.
Which Google services do you mean? A engine from 20 years ago isn’t the thing that import of the Google monopoly. Vivaldi helps in nothing to increas the incomming of Google )at least if you don’t use the Google search). You help more to Google using Mozilla products, which are sponsored by Google, using it’s advertising companies NEST and Alphabet.inc.
Vivaldi’s base is a partially degoogled Chromium, leaving the rest of Google APIs as option in the privacy settings.
The engine has noyhing to do, even if it wasmade by Google and several other companies, IBM, Samsung, and some others, like WebKit based in KHTML made by the German KDE.
For similar reasons you can say, that you never use TOR, because it was made by the CIA and the US army, same as the Onion.
Yes, Vivaldi us proprietary, because 5% of the script, only respect the UI, has copyright, the rest is FOSS . All is auditable 100%.
Yes, but as you can see in the second screenshot, which you’ll find in the settings, it remains in the user choice to use these or not. You can desmark all of tthe services, but at least if you need a google service, f.exmpl for study or professional use in companies, you have to accept Crypto Token, without, non of the Google services will work and Webstore when you want to download any extension from tehe store, without you can’t. Even Brave has this, but there you don’t have the option to desmark it, also FF and degoogled Chromiums at least use the Crypto Token, only in Vivaldi is optional, in none of the others.
Anyway, the biggest problem isn’t a browser more or less private, it’s the privacy in the webpage itself, who tracks the user with the dirties tricks. A browser only can block the worst, but with much, not all, nor TOR with VPN can do this.
Read this https://homes.esat.kuleuven.be/~asenol/leaky-forms/
Among others the e-mail tracking
“The privacy risks for users are that they will be tracked even more efficiently; they can be tracked across different websites, across different sessions, across mobile and desktop,” Acar says. “An email address is such a useful identifier for tracking, because it’s global, it’s unique, it’s constant. You can’t clear it like you clear your cookies. It’s a very powerful identifier”
Even only visiting thousends o the webpages, they use key and mouse tracking methodes to profile you, knowing exactly what you are looking for, even if you are only scrolling in this page.
I mainly use Andisearch, because it has a own reader mode, wich permits to read the content of almost all page in the search results, using Andisearch as front-end, which is really a good methode that other search engines should implement. The Peekier search at least shows the thumbnaul preview of a page instead of the simple title and URL in the results.
That is the real problem today, not so the browser if you don’t use directly Chrome, Edge, Yandex, or plain Chromium itself, apart of some common sense, the best privacy tool of all.
Not superior nor inferior, different. If you need a browser for browsing the web, post in Lemmy and other, read your mail, music, movies… evry browser is good, even the simplest, but if you are study, researching, working, you like to customize your workspace, than Vivaldi is the only which offer all the tools and features you need. No other do this.
You can write notes with Markdown, or in the context menu in the copy option in the context menu part of an article, with images and the source URL Yo can see several pages in split screen, you have a web panel where you can ad the pages you need in mobile view, f.exmpl. Wikipedia, Wolfram Alpha, a Chat, which you can consult or use without to leave the page where you are in this moment, you have a pomodoro timer, QR code of the page, Calendar, mail client, feed reader, own translator not from Google or Bing, History in calender view with graphics and stadistics, sync function of all settings, notes, bookmarks, passwords…encryted end to end, and much more.
Nothing to do with any other browser, it’s more an onlineOS than a simple browser. Apart of your own e-mail and a blog with your account. Librewolf is fine, but can it also do all this?
Opera was never OpenSource, not the old one and less the current one. Vivaldi is the creation of the same one that created Opera and wants to continue with Vivaldi the same philosophy focused on users. Give it a try, (it’s free and don’t bite), despite the fact that 5% of the script is copyrighted, although you can still get your hands on these 5%, if you know how to program, you just can’t use it in other browsers. Vivaldi is not OpenSource, but as if it were, it is already the default browser in up to two distros (Manjaro Cinnamon and FerenOS)
You will see the biggest settings page of your life.
If you had read the reasons, you know why the UI script has copyright, but 100% of the Vivaldi script is auditable, and even the UI part is moddeable by the user, it’s only prohibet to fork it to use it in another browser. Proprietary, yes, but not the same as in Chrome or Edge, with a big proprietary part over Chromium, but completly closed source not auditable, where nobody knows for what they are good for.
Thanks. I understand your effort to promote Vivaldi, and I too loved Opera and its UI. but, sadly, Vivaldi is proprietary software and uses a bunch of google services and dependencies, it even is based on google’s blink rendering engine, so it is not only far from being a privacy/ethical browser, it is walking in the wrong direction, helping google incrrase its monopoly and not letting people use their freedoms with software. If you don’t work within Vivaldi yourself, I suggest you check browsers like Librewolf, which I recommend for tech savy people. For most people I just recommend Firefox.
Which Google services do you mean? A engine from 20 years ago isn’t the thing that import of the Google monopoly. Vivaldi helps in nothing to increas the incomming of Google )at least if you don’t use the Google search). You help more to Google using Mozilla products, which are sponsored by Google, using it’s advertising companies NEST and Alphabet.inc. Vivaldi’s base is a partially degoogled Chromium, leaving the rest of Google APIs as option in the privacy settings. The engine has noyhing to do, even if it wasmade by Google and several other companies, IBM, Samsung, and some others, like WebKit based in KHTML made by the German KDE. For similar reasons you can say, that you never use TOR, because it was made by the CIA and the US army, same as the Onion. Yes, Vivaldi us proprietary, because 5% of the script, only respect the UI, has copyright, the rest is FOSS . All is auditable 100%.
https://avoidthehack.com/review-vivaldi-browser
Yes, but as you can see in the second screenshot, which you’ll find in the settings, it remains in the user choice to use these or not. You can desmark all of tthe services, but at least if you need a google service, f.exmpl for study or professional use in companies, you have to accept Crypto Token, without, non of the Google services will work and Webstore when you want to download any extension from tehe store, without you can’t. Even Brave has this, but there you don’t have the option to desmark it, also FF and degoogled Chromiums at least use the Crypto Token, only in Vivaldi is optional, in none of the others. Anyway, the biggest problem isn’t a browser more or less private, it’s the privacy in the webpage itself, who tracks the user with the dirties tricks. A browser only can block the worst, but with much, not all, nor TOR with VPN can do this. Read this https://homes.esat.kuleuven.be/~asenol/leaky-forms/ Among others the e-mail tracking
Even only visiting thousends o the webpages, they use key and mouse tracking methodes to profile you, knowing exactly what you are looking for, even if you are only scrolling in this page.
I mainly use Andisearch, because it has a own reader mode, wich permits to read the content of almost all page in the search results, using Andisearch as front-end, which is really a good methode that other search engines should implement. The Peekier search at least shows the thumbnaul preview of a page instead of the simple title and URL in the results. That is the real problem today, not so the browser if you don’t use directly Chrome, Edge, Yandex, or plain Chromium itself, apart of some common sense, the best privacy tool of all.
Give me one reason why Vivaldi could be superior to Librewolf in terms of privacy and resilience
Not superior nor inferior, different. If you need a browser for browsing the web, post in Lemmy and other, read your mail, music, movies… evry browser is good, even the simplest, but if you are study, researching, working, you like to customize your workspace, than Vivaldi is the only which offer all the tools and features you need. No other do this. You can write notes with Markdown, or in the context menu in the copy option in the context menu part of an article, with images and the source URL Yo can see several pages in split screen, you have a web panel where you can ad the pages you need in mobile view, f.exmpl. Wikipedia, Wolfram Alpha, a Chat, which you can consult or use without to leave the page where you are in this moment, you have a pomodoro timer, QR code of the page, Calendar, mail client, feed reader, own translator not from Google or Bing, History in calender view with graphics and stadistics, sync function of all settings, notes, bookmarks, passwords…encryted end to end, and much more. Nothing to do with any other browser, it’s more an onlineOS than a simple browser. Apart of your own e-mail and a blog with your account. Librewolf is fine, but can it also do all this?
Thats really cool.i loved opera in the 90s. If vivaldi were libre software, id give it a try.
Opera was never OpenSource, not the old one and less the current one. Vivaldi is the creation of the same one that created Opera and wants to continue with Vivaldi the same philosophy focused on users. Give it a try, (it’s free and don’t bite), despite the fact that 5% of the script is copyrighted, although you can still get your hands on these 5%, if you know how to program, you just can’t use it in other browsers. Vivaldi is not OpenSource, but as if it were, it is already the default browser in up to two distros (Manjaro Cinnamon and FerenOS) You will see the biggest settings page of your life.