• @geoma
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    12 years ago

    Thats really cool.i loved opera in the 90s. If vivaldi were libre software, id give it a try.

    • @Zerush
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      Opera was never OpenSource, not the old one and less the current one. Vivaldi is the creation of the same one that created Opera and wants to continue with Vivaldi the same philosophy focused on users. Give it a try, (it’s free and don’t bite), despite the fact that 5% of the script is copyrighted, although you can still get your hands on these 5%, if you know how to program, you just can’t use it in other browsers. Vivaldi is not OpenSource, but as if it were, it is already the default browser in up to two distros (Manjaro Cinnamon and FerenOS) You will see the biggest settings page of your life.

      • @geoma
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        22 years ago

        Yeah I know, at the time when I usef Opera, in the 90s, I didnt know about free software/proprietary software. Ive tried vivaldi some years ago but the fact its not libre software keeps me away. I believe we as a world need libre cooperative software standards in order to be shared and perfectioned and so we can be safe of monopolies, capitalism abuses, etc. I want to gradually walk in the way of having less proprietary blobs, not more.

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          2 years ago

          I understand you perfectly, but, since this 5% UI snippet with copyright that Vivaldi turns into a closed proprietary soft, there is another aspect why I am using it as a favorite, it is a product of the EU and not the United States and also the company is a cooperative, owned by its employees, which has also convinced me with my political ideology, apart from Vivaldi’s activism for a network without surveillance advertising, even facing Google (which has cost them from being blocked in Google services until they decided to remove Vivaldi’s name from the UA string in favor of users and against their own interests. I also prefer FOSS, but with these facts I don’t care so much that Vivaldi’s UI is copyrighted, it’s still the best the browser market has to offer in any aspect.

          • @geoma
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            12 years ago

            A gecko based open source vivaldi fork would be awesome

            • @Zerush
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              12 years ago

              But not possible, because it needs to create Vivaldi from scratch, apart some features possibly won’t work with a Gecko engine, hard enough the effort the need to develope a Vivaldi for iOS, which need to use WebKit as engine, due to the restrictive policy of Apple, which won’t other engine in mobile (they won’t have a competition of it’s IE, ehm, Safari), and WebKit is more similar to Blink. It’s a work which can do a big companie, but not a small team with 20 devs for 5 OS, like Vivaldi.