🤔 everytime I try to describe one I end up describing the other as well. I’m interested between the distinction now too!
My understanding is pretty surface level ngl but it’s:
The old nazbols were the social conservatives who while weren’t communist, saw communism as a vector to get what they wanted and co-opted communist rhetoric and imagery for that purpose while being scumbags. And the modern version are essentially right wing reactionaries using the same strategy to legitimise themselves in modern Russia where old Soviets might fall into their trap?
Pat socs are american loving/defending patriots who see socialism as a vector for them to achieve what they want. They are usually socially conservative or liberal in their beliefs and understanding of social justice and systemic issues that face minorities and tend to advocate for a America first mentality within their understanding of a socialist framework?
Like they aren’t exactly the same per my understanding but they aren’t that different either 😕 so to say they are fundamentally different feels like splitting hairs again per my understanding but what do I know lol.
I’d be interested to see what some more well read comrades have to say since I am not.
🤔 everytime I try to describe one I end up describing the other as well. I’m interested between the distinction now too!
My understanding is pretty surface level ngl but it’s:
The old nazbols were the social conservatives who while weren’t communist, saw communism as a vector to get what they wanted and co-opted communist rhetoric and imagery for that purpose while being scumbags. And the modern version are essentially right wing reactionaries using the same strategy to legitimise themselves in modern Russia where old Soviets might fall into their trap?
Pat socs are american loving/defending patriots who see socialism as a vector for them to achieve what they want. They are usually socially conservative or liberal in their beliefs and understanding of social justice and systemic issues that face minorities and tend to advocate for a America first mentality within their understanding of a socialist framework?
Like they aren’t exactly the same per my understanding but they aren’t that different either 😕 so to say they are fundamentally different feels like splitting hairs again per my understanding but what do I know lol.
I’d be interested to see what some more well read comrades have to say since I am not.