The two-day shutdown comes at a time of record-breaking extreme heat across the globe, with July poised to be the hottest month in history.

The two-day shutdown comes at a time of record-breaking extreme heat across the globe, with July poised to be the hottest month in history.

    • Nibbler
      401·
      11 months ago

      Stop putting the blame on the individual when corporations easily account for over 70% of global emissions and pollution. My gas powered car isn’t gonna change shit.

        • Nibbler
          161·
          11 months ago

          I shouldn’t be made to feel guilty for living my life in this hellscape that were forced to live in. I’m not going to inconvenience myself and make own life harder while the elite fly around in private jets and are more wasteful in a day than I could ever be in my entire life. I care about the environment and want things to change, but I’m not the problem. And if you are trying to make the common person bare the guilt for climate change, you’re part of the problem. I do what I can when I can. But to inconvenience myself or spend more of what little money I have to make a negligible difference compared to what a corporation or a single billionaire could do is not gonna happen. Simple as that.

          • dunning_cougar@waveform.social
            75·
            11 months ago

            We are all collectively guilty and we will collectively pay the price. Every little decision we make today echoes far into the future,. Being conscious of our mistakes can lead to better habits. Inaction is no longer enough, we mmdemand positive corrective action today! No one is perfect, but it is an option to live without a vehicle. Billions of people manage to live without the convenience of personal transportation. It is a privilege not a right.

        • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
          7·
          11 months ago

          Okay are you going to buy me an electric car then?

          The thing about being a radical is that you actually have to do something, not just spout bullshit online.

        • SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org
          2·
          11 months ago

          This isn’t a matter of individual, personal responsibility. The change necessary needs to happen at the government level.

        • lightstream
          43·
          11 months ago

          Those poor Iranians

          I suggest you try to analyse the data. Iranians have a very high energy usage per capita - at least as high as any EU country and probably higher. The country is a major oil and gas producer, and the population is accustomed to cheap petrol prices due to heavy subsidisation by the government. You won’t find many Iranians opting to use public transport for the good of the environment. Like Americans, they would rather sit in their own air-conditioned vehicles in interminable traffic jams.

          • tetris11
            5·
            11 months ago

            You won’t find many Iranians opting to use public transport for the good of the environment.

            Lack of choice and potential lobbying from the car industry might also be factors here. I can’t imagine anyone who would drive if there was cheap and plentiful public transport available.

            Like Americans, they would rather sit in their own air-conditioned vehicles in interminable traffic jams.

            I’d say the same for the Americans. A century of pro-car policy removes the illusion of choice.

          • dunning_cougar@waveform.social
            23·
            11 months ago

            Um, excuse you, the climate catastrophe is a GLOBAL phenomenon! We are collectively guilty for killing our mother. Are you a Zionist agent, gaslighting us with anti-Iran propaganda? How are they supposed to switch to renewals when their economy is crushed by US sanctions at the behest of Israel???

    • kn0wmad1c@programming.devEnglish
      219·
      11 months ago

      Big yikes. As long as the grid that you plug your EVs into is based off of fossil fuels, you’re not solving anything.

      • bluGill@kbin.social
        221·
        11 months ago

        My grid is based off of wind. Yours could be too. Demand it, importantly demand the laws that allow it be built . Many areas have outlawed them, or may as well because of all the red tape. They are standard these days and so permits should be shall issue in request for a standard design.

    • 5in1k@lemm.ee
      85·
      11 months ago

      I’m not going to have kids so I feel like I can drive whatever because my carbon footprint ends with me. I’m also fairly fatalistic about climate change. Humans are too stupid to stop it and when enough of us die the problem will solve itself.

      • bzxt
        16·
        11 months ago

        The main culprits are the big oil companies. They made the carbon footprint term to make us feel guilty and shift the blame from the biggest polluters.

        • itsYaBoyNoodles@beehaw.org
          11·
          11 months ago

          Yep! And I bet it’ll turn out in a few decades that it will come out they were also behind the Doomerism we’re seeing a lot of on social media these days. “Well it’s too late so why try?” Is much more comfortable than “We have to sacrifice a lot of comfort, but if we all try really hard we can do it.”

          Weird thought, you ever think oil executives have nightmares about a global collective wanting to bring them to the guillotine?

          • argv_minus_one@beehaw.org
            2·
            11 months ago

            They made the decisions that got us here, they have the power to turn this around, but we are to sacrifice everything while they continue to live in luxury and do nothing to help? Does this seriously seem reasonable to you?

          • Dragster39@feddit.de
            1·
            11 months ago

            Aren’t there really any numbers on this? I’d really like to know how aircraft carriers and container ships and other vehicles compare

            • negativeyoda@lemmy.world
              2·
              11 months ago

              That’s the point. There aren’t any numbers because the military does not allow oversight.

              Look at this shit about the Abrams Tank and consider that armor is a small part of our military

              The M1 Abrams tank has a fuel economy of 0.6 miles per gallon. Variants of the Abrams tank weigh between 60 and 70 tons and are powered by a 1,500-horsepower turbine engine. An armored division of the Army can use as much as 600,000 gallons of fuel a day. A cargo vehicle like the M-1070 semi-trailer (designed to haul tanks) gets approximately 1.2 mpg. The M1 Abrams tank consumes about 60 gallons per hour while traveling long distances and can travel approximately 250-300 miles on a single gas tank.

              This doesn’t even take into account active devastation caused by munitions testing

        • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
          21·
          11 months ago

          Indeed they corrupted the narrative to avoid blame, to maintain profits.

          But who are they selling the oil to? Us.

          We are all sinners in this

            • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
              11·
              11 months ago

              I said in the first place that the companies hid the impact of pollution to maintain profits so fuck off with that.

              Do you think oil companies just make the oil products, emit the pollution and pump it back below the surface of the earth?

              No. We drove the cars that used it, we used the plastics, we asked for more and more and cheaper and cheaper and they said “sure thing bud 🤑”

      • pingveno
        1·
        11 months ago

        I don’t get the fatalist viewpoint. Yeah, a lot of people are actively resisting change for one reason or another. But at the same time, there has been progress towards the necessary goals. Civilization will end up worse off than without climate change, but we’re not going to be thrown back into the Stone Age or anything.

    • Blapoo
      96·
      11 months ago

      Good point, I’ll just commute 2 hours both ways by bike then. Thanks for your contribution. /s

      • dunning_cougar@waveform.social
        13·
        11 months ago

        Yes, thank you for doing your part. Stick to bike paths when available. As another user pointed out, cars also contribute to local air pollution with brake dust and microplastics from the four big tires.

        • Blapoo
          5·
          11 months ago

          /s means sarcasm. I’m not going to abandon my life by commuting 4 hours a day. And I don’t have any money to buy a new car

                • argv_minus_one@beehaw.org
                  11·
                  11 months ago

                  The sacrifice you demand is life-ending. From the perspective of the person you demand it of, it is not better than the alternative.

                  It also is not a solution. Even if cars stopped being a thing across the world right now, it would only slow global warming down a little, not stop it.

                  • dunning_cougar@waveform.social
                    22·
                    11 months ago

                    Billions of people live without their own car. Transportation is an unfair advantage to get ahead and it costs the rest of us profoundly.

    • mashbooq@infosec.pub
      623·
      11 months ago

      Most pollution from cars comes from the tires, not the gas burning. If you drive any car at all, you’re the problem

      • bluGill@kbin.social
        18·
        11 months ago

        Citation needed… tires are a problem, but gasoline is farm worse pollution overall. Unless you cherry pick pollutant.

        • Zorque@kbin.social
          71·
          11 months ago

          I believe most of the microplastics that are in everything we consume come from car tires. So probably less a climate change problem, but still an issue.

          • Notyou@sopuli.xyz
            1·
            11 months ago

            I did not know that. I wonder how much that attempted tire reef fuck up contributed to microplastics in the ocean and therefore our seafood.