• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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    -12 years ago

    Nobody is proving intellectualism to you here. What you’re being told is that your argument is a fallacy, and you’re using it to avoid discussing the core problem of NATO expansion.

    You’re a deeply dishonest individual and there is no point continuing this discussion. I’ve explained the solution to you in this very thread, and linked multiple experts on geopolitics who explain how this problem can be avoided. Continuing to pretend that nobody knows how to avoid the problem that people have been explaining how to avoid for decades shows what sort of intellectual you really are.

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        -12 years ago

        I’ve repeatedly provided my opinions and possible solutions. I’ve also linked opinions of experts on the subject who support the kinds of solutions I outlined. You refused to discuss them and instead chose to screech about whataboutism. Now you’re complaining that I’m saying there’s no point in continuing discussion.

        Once again, the solution is for the west to engage Russia as an equal and to come up with a security framework that both sides are comfortable with. This is what pretty much every western expert on the subject, from Chomsky to Mearsheimer advocates for.

        It’s depressing to see that this is a hard concept for some people to wrap their heads around. Figures that a troll would waste other people’s time for a laugh though.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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            -12 years ago

            Diplomacy is not built on trust, it’s built on respect. The west made it clear that the only way to get respect is through force, and that’s what Russia is now using after decades of trying to use diplomacy and running into a wall. I did provide you solutions, as well as links to numerous experts explaining these solutions in details. The fact that you keep ignoring that tells me everything I need to know here.

            And absolutely love how you’re now playing a victim here to avoid engaging in honest discussion. Thanks for the laugh bud. You’re a real class act.

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                -12 years ago

                Trust is irrelevant. As I’ve already explained, the only thing you can trust is that countries will act in their interest. Understanding what the interests of different countries are and trying to find ways to reconcile those with your own is the only way forward.

                The west has a set of interests, and Russia has a set of interests. The solution is to make it less costly to meet respective interests through a peaceful resolution than a conflict. This requires both sides to give something up understanding that if they do not then they stand to lose more when conflict breaks out.

                And the only thing I assume here based on our interactions is that you’re a troll who wastes other people’s time. I guess you’re playing to your strengths here.

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                    -22 years ago

                    Again, there is no such thing as trust in geopolitics. It’s about trying to understand the goals and motivations of others, then reconciling that with your own.

                    Brute force is precisely how geopolitics works today and as I’ve already explained in this thread, this is precisely what the west uses to retain its position in the world.

                    And I love how you aren’t capable of even entertaining the idea that maybe the reason you’re getting downvoted is due to the quality of your comments. Love how you think that you’re being persecuted for your ideas instead. So brave.