• @gun
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    92 years ago

    Ukraine had no official ambition to join NATO before the Crimea annexation.

    “Ukraine applied to integrate with a NATO Membership Action Plan (MAP) in 2008.”

    Learn your history before you talk about such things

    • liwott
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      -32 years ago

      What about you read the rest of the same Wikipedia paragraph instead of isolating the sentence that seems to make you right?

      Plans for NATO membership were shelved by Ukraine following the 2010 presidential election in which Viktor Yanukovych, who preferred to keep the country non-aligned, was elected President. Amid the Euromaidan unrest, Yanukovych fled Ukraine in February 2014. The interim Yatseniuk Government which came to power initially said, with reference to the country’s non-aligned status, that it had no plans to join NATO.

      (I stop here as the rest concerns what happens after Russian invasion)

      So OK, I didn’t write it in the best possible way (as it couod be read as “Ukraine had never made any plan to join NATO ever”, which was not my intention) but my point is still correct : just before the invasion, Ukraine had no such plans.

      Maybe you consider that having had a plan to join NATO 4 years before justifies annexing a part of the country?

      • @gun
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        72 years ago

        I’m just disputing a very simple claim you made. 2008 is very simply before the Crimea annexation. So you are very simply wrong.

        • liwott
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          12 years ago

          I indeed poorly choose my words, sorry about that.
          What I said :

          Ukraine had no official ambition to join NATO before the Crimea annexation.

          can be understood in two ways :

          • Ukraine had never had such plans ever
          • Ukraine didn’t have such plans just before the invasion

          I meant the second one, but I recognize that I should have stated that more clearly.