• @southerntofu
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    -12 years ago

    Not doing anything against fascist governments invading foreign countries will not save anyone from fascism. WTF is wrong with these people? Do they even have a foot on reality?

      • @southerntofu
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        -52 years ago

        Azov is just one battalion in the national guard, it’s not representative of Ukraine. France/Russia have MANY fascists/nazis in the military too, if that concerns you: why pretend Ukraine is an exception?

        Also, note that i’m not defending a Nation State attacking regions declaring their autonomy, but from what i gathered the situation isn’t exactly as clear cut either, as Russian military/establishment invaded those regions, took control of key infrastructure (including identity papers) then organized a sham referendum for which ballots had been pre-filled “yes”. It’s straight from the playbook of colonial aggression, not very far from what the US did in Iraq/Afghanistan for example.

        • Azov is a batallion officiallized by the fucking government in Ukraine. Have you been blind this hole time, or are you just a fucking liberal?

          • @southerntofu
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            -62 years ago

            Azov is one of many battalions that were incorporated into the national guard. Anyone can now mount civil militias which for example the anarchists have done since the invasion. Azov and neo-nazi culture does not have practical political power in Ukraine. See also how many seats nazi/fascist parties have in Ukraine vs in Russia or in the rest of Europe. Hell they even have a jewish president and that pisses the hell out of ukrainian nazis ;)

            I strongly recommend this video from a ukrainian leftist which addresses some key propaganda points.

            • Azov was officiallized after the coup d’etat in 2014-15, the Maidan topic, it’s not something new,and even fucking liberal media spoke about the Nazi problem Ukraine was already having and now is currently worse to the point armed civilians are hunting down precisely LGBTs, non-whites, Gipsies, Russophones from the Donbass, alleged thieves, and more.

              And that’s it “the president is Jewish, therefore, he can’t be the nazi he is!” because what the Jewish call “capos” never existed, huh? How can you be this naive?

              And of course, anarchists make this, they are the first to die and kill for the current hegemony, never fails lmao.

              Let me guess, you think “authoritarian” is a therm that has an actual meaning in politics that actually matters, right?

      • @agarorn@feddit.de
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        12 years ago

        Did you just say that Russia is “not invading”? Come on dude. It’s even low for bootlickers to say that.

      • @southerntofu
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        -22 years ago

        Russia is neither fascist nor it is invading.

        Russia is both these things. Ask Russians involved in political activities and they will tell you all about it. Repression against antifascist/anarchist/queer movements has been strong across the Russian empire this past decade.

        Also, how can you say it’s not invading foreign territories? You can spit out State propaganda all you like to justify the invasion, but it’s materially impossible to deny there’s a military invasion going on.

        But if that were the case, “doing a thing” must mean something different that sending your own people to die.

        I entirely agree, i’m certainly not in favor of a NATO military intervention. I am though certainly in favor of arming peoples militias and revolutionary movements across the planet, which of course is not aligned with NATO/Russian interests.

        You do not care about Ukrainians, you are anti-Russia.

        You know nothing about me and yet you judge. For almost twenty years now i’ve been involved in various refugee solidarity networks across western Europe. This includes political organizing with people coming from all regions of the Russian Empire who all are “anti-Russia” as you say (just like i’m anti-France). So i do care about the people whether from Ukraine or Russia or anywhere else. But as much as my anarchist side shouts “BURN ALL STATES AND BORDERS” my anti-colonial stance makes me support ukrainian resistance against the invasion. Just like as much as i am critical of Venezuelan government, i can only stand in support of them against US neocolonial policies.