You probably meant arms for the Spanish republic (1936), as it was being coup’ed by Franco supported by Germany/Italy and the western liberal democracies refused to intervene, because it would irritate Mussolini/Hitler and could trigger a war, or so they said. Note that Stalin’s USSR did provide some weapons to revolutionary Spain, but under the condition they be attributed to a hierarchical military (dismantling the people’s militias) and that women aren’t allowed to fight… and of course those weapons were used by the Spanish Communist Party to terrorize the local population or outright murder self-organized workers cooperatives such as during the Telefonica battle.
If you consider the Russian government or its puppets to be anything resembling a “republic” you need a reality check. I’m not saying western “democracy” is good by our political standards, but from stories i gather from Belarus/Russia/Chechen comrades there’s nothing comparable with the levels of atrocity they endure.
Ukrainians have by far more political freedom and personal autonomy (including women/LGBT rights) than Russians. Anarchists and queers on both sides of the border stand against imperialist/fascist aggression from Putin so i’ve chosen my side. Are you siding with Putin and his oligarchs, or with revolutionary internationalist militants?
I’m against chauvinists like you and the NATO, which you blindly support.
Also,all that you said… You’re just dunked in liberal media, my diarrhea is more revolutionary than Ukrainians right now, liberal shill.
Wow. You should no i’m not a chauvinist: i’m a proud anti-nationalist (although i do understand “nationalism” in an anti-colonial revolutionary context), and i don’t support NATO. I don’t usually consume liberal media, my sources on what’s happening in Ukraine/Russia is from first-hand testimony by anarchist comrades, and from anarchist sources like crimethinc.com.
You’re just supporting a patriarchal, capitalist and imperialist government and military invading foreign territory. You’re just a tool of the system and a counter-revolutionary. See, i too can make useless judgements of someone i don’t know.
I’m supporting the liberation of Donbass and the de-nazification of any country and the legitimacy of a country with many more millons of people to live without the menace of the NATO.
You Anarchists have shown again and again to be no different than radlibs with just some punk aesthetics and no contextualization of absolutely nothing, and be the firsts to unite against anti-imperialist countries in this context and join liberals in the demonizing of actual Socialist states and states that are against the anglosphere.
A leftist would fucking join the current Russian invasion to fucking kill Nazis, not join the Nazi State of Ukraine to defend them like you are doing.
“muh antinationalism” until it’s protecting fucking nathcaths and literal fucking nazis.
I’m supporting the liberation of Donbass and the de-nazification of any country
Good, me too. However, do you understand that painting a people/society as inherently evil in order to invade them is a neocolonial trope? For recent examples, see Afghanistan/Iraq/Libya.
live without the menace of the NATO
That would be great! But it should not be your only worry. All imperialist militaries (as opposed to peoples militias such as EZLN in Chiapas) are inherently bad for peoples. If NATO were to suddenly disappear over night, we’d have the very same problems we have today but with France/Russia/China responsible. Oh wait that’s already the case: who knew someone could be a colonizer and not be NATO?
Anarchists (…) the firsts to unite against anti-imperialist countries in this context and join liberals in the demonizing of actual Socialist states and states that are against the anglosphere
Wow that’s quite a broad and misinformed take. There’s a long history of anarchist anti-colonialism and i’ve yet to meet anarchists siding with French/USA empire (though i don’t doubt such people might exist in some internet margins). But i’ve certainly met my fair share of MLs and maoists supporting racist neocolonial policies here in France: for example some “far-left” (i would personally say red-brown) organizations have been very involved in demonizing veiled muslim women and supporting counter-insurrection and State propaganda in the popular suburbs.
A leftist would fucking join the current Russian invasion to fucking kill Nazis, not join the Nazi State of Ukraine to defend them like you are doing.
Then why are so many leftists joining the peoples militias of Ukraine? Why are political refugees from Belarus or Russia taking arms against their own Empire? If you want to kill nazis, no need to move abroad, there’s an abundance of those in Western Europe, Russia, North America… And then again, compared to the colonial/racist history of say France or Russia, saying Ukraine is a nazi country is a far-stretched that’s completely disconnected from the daily lives or ordinary people, although it’s important to point out that racism does exist there and was exacerbated since the war started. You don’t fight nazism by supporting an authoritarian reactionary State.
“muh antinationalism” until it’s protecting fucking nathcaths and literal fucking nazis.
If you’re looking for reactionary christian nationalists, look no further than Russia or France. Putin has been hand in hand with the orthodox patriarchs reinforcing the moral control over society, via the widespread reeducation center for queer/punk youth and the ban of LGBT propaganda. I appreciate that you’re trying to point out my contradictions (and to be clear i don’t support/condone NATO in any way) but please take a minute to reflect on your own. Maybe read some critique from Russian leftists who can tell you about the political police, the social control in everyday life, and Russian racism and cultural supremacy?
Just a lot of words to say you are for the NATO using Ukrainians and also for protecting its state, which has been officiallizing and condecorating literal nazi officials.
Why the left must support arms for Germany! (1930’s edition of same article)
You probably meant arms for the Spanish republic (1936), as it was being coup’ed by Franco supported by Germany/Italy and the western liberal democracies refused to intervene, because it would irritate Mussolini/Hitler and could trigger a war, or so they said. Note that Stalin’s USSR did provide some weapons to revolutionary Spain, but under the condition they be attributed to a hierarchical military (dismantling the people’s militias) and that women aren’t allowed to fight… and of course those weapons were used by the Spanish Communist Party to terrorize the local population or outright murder self-organized workers cooperatives such as during the Telefonica battle.
No, if you want to use this Spanish Civil War, you should use “arm the Nacionales against the Republicans!”
We are talking about Ukraine, remember?
If you consider the Russian government or its puppets to be anything resembling a “republic” you need a reality check. I’m not saying western “democracy” is good by our political standards, but from stories i gather from Belarus/Russia/Chechen comrades there’s nothing comparable with the levels of atrocity they endure.
Ukrainians have by far more political freedom and personal autonomy (including women/LGBT rights) than Russians. Anarchists and queers on both sides of the border stand against imperialist/fascist aggression from Putin so i’ve chosen my side. Are you siding with Putin and his oligarchs, or with revolutionary internationalist militants?
I’m against chauvinists like you and the NATO, which you blindly support. Also,all that you said… You’re just dunked in liberal media, my diarrhea is more revolutionary than Ukrainians right now, liberal shill.
Wow. You should no i’m not a chauvinist: i’m a proud anti-nationalist (although i do understand “nationalism” in an anti-colonial revolutionary context), and i don’t support NATO. I don’t usually consume liberal media, my sources on what’s happening in Ukraine/Russia is from first-hand testimony by anarchist comrades, and from anarchist sources like crimethinc.com.
You’re just supporting a patriarchal, capitalist and imperialist government and military invading foreign territory. You’re just a tool of the system and a counter-revolutionary. See, i too can make useless judgements of someone i don’t know.
I’m supporting the liberation of Donbass and the de-nazification of any country and the legitimacy of a country with many more millons of people to live without the menace of the NATO.
You Anarchists have shown again and again to be no different than radlibs with just some punk aesthetics and no contextualization of absolutely nothing, and be the firsts to unite against anti-imperialist countries in this context and join liberals in the demonizing of actual Socialist states and states that are against the anglosphere.
A leftist would fucking join the current Russian invasion to fucking kill Nazis, not join the Nazi State of Ukraine to defend them like you are doing.
“muh antinationalism” until it’s protecting fucking nathcaths and literal fucking nazis.
Good, me too. However, do you understand that painting a people/society as inherently evil in order to invade them is a neocolonial trope? For recent examples, see Afghanistan/Iraq/Libya.
That would be great! But it should not be your only worry. All imperialist militaries (as opposed to peoples militias such as EZLN in Chiapas) are inherently bad for peoples. If NATO were to suddenly disappear over night, we’d have the very same problems we have today but with France/Russia/China responsible. Oh wait that’s already the case: who knew someone could be a colonizer and not be NATO?
Wow that’s quite a broad and misinformed take. There’s a long history of anarchist anti-colonialism and i’ve yet to meet anarchists siding with French/USA empire (though i don’t doubt such people might exist in some internet margins). But i’ve certainly met my fair share of MLs and maoists supporting racist neocolonial policies here in France: for example some “far-left” (i would personally say red-brown) organizations have been very involved in demonizing veiled muslim women and supporting counter-insurrection and State propaganda in the popular suburbs.
Then why are so many leftists joining the peoples militias of Ukraine? Why are political refugees from Belarus or Russia taking arms against their own Empire? If you want to kill nazis, no need to move abroad, there’s an abundance of those in Western Europe, Russia, North America… And then again, compared to the colonial/racist history of say France or Russia, saying Ukraine is a nazi country is a far-stretched that’s completely disconnected from the daily lives or ordinary people, although it’s important to point out that racism does exist there and was exacerbated since the war started. You don’t fight nazism by supporting an authoritarian reactionary State.
If you’re looking for reactionary christian nationalists, look no further than Russia or France. Putin has been hand in hand with the orthodox patriarchs reinforcing the moral control over society, via the widespread reeducation center for queer/punk youth and the ban of LGBT propaganda. I appreciate that you’re trying to point out my contradictions (and to be clear i don’t support/condone NATO in any way) but please take a minute to reflect on your own. Maybe read some critique from Russian leftists who can tell you about the political police, the social control in everyday life, and Russian racism and cultural supremacy?
Just a lot of words to say you are for the NATO using Ukrainians and also for protecting its state, which has been officiallizing and condecorating literal nazi officials.