UK government is trying to get into iCloud end-to-end encryption. (Again?)

Makes me think about email servers too. Most of my private information is in emails, and not only I use a service where the host machines access the email, so do almost everyone I email to/from.

  • Gayhitler
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    3 小时前

    Anonymity and not being google or one of the other big mail providers.

    Email is not an easily selfhostable service either. Modern spam filtering systems require the maintainer to jump through a bunch of hoops intended to defeat their anonymity and establish a recourse in case of problems.

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      They’re not anonymous, contrary to common perception. They’re encrypted, but they know things like your IP address and which IP addresses you’re communicating with, even if they don’t know the content of your messages. Some of them explicitly state as much.

      Depending on the local laws of the company or servers, they might be compelled to share whatever data they do have, which could be enough info to assist law enforcement in making an arrest, even if they can’t see the message itself.

      If you want anonymous email use, you have to use a logless VPN at a minimum every time you access a third party encrypted email service. That way neither side of the email exchange can tie your IP address to you.

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        Of course, I only meant that unlike Gmail and such services like proton don’t actively impede your anonymity and build a profile on you as far as we know.

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          Proton does require you to have a dedicated phone number or email to sign up though, like that was my main thing that swayed me away from making a protonmail account was when I went to sign up I was met with a phone number requirement and I’m like “oh well this isn’t going to be helpful”

          They claim it’s to prevent abuse of the service, and that it’s only the cryptographic hash which can be used to find out if the email has been used on an account before. But I dislike that it requires even going that info

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            I think I got in before they started doing that.

            Actually I don’t think they require that. I just set up a new proton account on a device with a fresh wipe from a vpn endpoint I never used before and they offered to record a phone number or recovery email but didn’t require it.