What does it mean for the world ? Nothing yet. The two candidates that were expected have the lead.
What does it mean for France ? A lot.
First, the traditional party got replaced. The socialist party is dead. The communist party is also dead. But what is new is the right-wing party “Les Républicains” is dying. The results of the election is an humiliation for them. Last time, they got 20% even if their candidate was totally corrupted !
The campaigns get refunded when a candidate reach 5%. So, candidates that fail to make 5% when they thought they would are in big troubles. Pécresse has 5 Mio € in personal debt that the party cannot refund ! It is hard to know what will happen for them. But it look like the party will collapse.
The ecologists hoped to replace the socialists but they failed. They also thought they would be above 5%, they were not. They have 2 Mio € in debt that they need to get refunded by a crowd-funding.
The result of Jean-Luc Mélenchon is very good. It is 4% above the highest opinion polling. The “left” supporter in France expressed their will of a strong left party and NOT a liberal one. Maybe this time, they will succeed to create a big left party. Mélenchon is not a liberal neither is he a communist. Short term, the defeat of Mélenchon is bad news but the perspectives are good.
The last good news is the failure of Zemmour. He may seem to be the same as Le Pen from the outside of the country, but he is really racists and do not care about democracy. Whereas, Marine Le Pen is just an other corrupted right-wing politician. She expelled a lot of racists, fascists and nazis from her party… So much in fact that Zemmour created his movement. She also told to the Minister of the Interior that he was islamophobic during a debate. She also is in favor of more democracy with the “citizens’ initiative referendum” for example. She sucks but at least she do not want to deport immigrants because of islamophobia.
Bad news is the second turn sucks. Macron will likely get re-elected but this time it is not won before the second turn. People might change their minds.
Macron got so many votes because the 60y.o+ voted massively for him. It is hard to know what will happen in 5 years.
I feel that this entire post is against the rule “No being an electorialist or a lib”. Let me know if it is the case.
I think discussing elections and their ramifications, or even talking about candidates is fine, as long as you aren’t advocating for electoral liberal democracy as a genuine method for effecting socialist/revolutionary change. I may be wrong, but this comment is incredibly informative.
Thanks for the incredibly detailed response! Glad you risked breaking a rule but you’re not trying to promote any reactionary viewpoint, just laying out the facts so I don’t think you did.
What does it mean for the world ? Nothing yet. The two candidates that were expected have the lead.
What does it mean for France ? A lot.
First, the traditional party got replaced. The socialist party is dead. The communist party is also dead. But what is new is the right-wing party “Les Républicains” is dying. The results of the election is an humiliation for them. Last time, they got 20% even if their candidate was totally corrupted !
The campaigns get refunded when a candidate reach 5%. So, candidates that fail to make 5% when they thought they would are in big troubles. Pécresse has 5 Mio € in personal debt that the party cannot refund ! It is hard to know what will happen for them. But it look like the party will collapse. The ecologists hoped to replace the socialists but they failed. They also thought they would be above 5%, they were not. They have 2 Mio € in debt that they need to get refunded by a crowd-funding.
The result of Jean-Luc Mélenchon is very good. It is 4% above the highest opinion polling. The “left” supporter in France expressed their will of a strong left party and NOT a liberal one. Maybe this time, they will succeed to create a big left party. Mélenchon is not a liberal neither is he a communist. Short term, the defeat of Mélenchon is bad news but the perspectives are good.
The last good news is the failure of Zemmour. He may seem to be the same as Le Pen from the outside of the country, but he is really racists and do not care about democracy. Whereas, Marine Le Pen is just an other corrupted right-wing politician. She expelled a lot of racists, fascists and nazis from her party… So much in fact that Zemmour created his movement. She also told to the Minister of the Interior that he was islamophobic during a debate. She also is in favor of more democracy with the “citizens’ initiative referendum” for example. She sucks but at least she do not want to deport immigrants because of islamophobia.
Bad news is the second turn sucks. Macron will likely get re-elected but this time it is not won before the second turn. People might change their minds. Macron got so many votes because the 60y.o+ voted massively for him. It is hard to know what will happen in 5 years.
I feel that this entire post is against the rule “No being an electorialist or a lib”. Let me know if it is the case.
This type of input is really valuable imo
I think discussing elections and their ramifications, or even talking about candidates is fine, as long as you aren’t advocating for electoral liberal democracy as a genuine method for effecting socialist/revolutionary change. I may be wrong, but this comment is incredibly informative.
Thanks for the incredibly detailed response! Glad you risked breaking a rule but you’re not trying to promote any reactionary viewpoint, just laying out the facts so I don’t think you did.