• guojing
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    “Ukraines borders” is Russian teritorry, so of course the military is stationed there. Meanwhile, why does United States and NATO have military bases all over eastern Europe?

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      so of course the military is stationed there

      What are you talking about? They weren’t stationed there until just this year. And they’re stationed in Belarus, Moldova, Crimea along with forces in the Baltic Sea.

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          The stupid, it burns. There’s 130k to 150k possibly 190k troops there now. No previous article mentions that number of troops. This represents an escalation, which is higher than any number in the articles you are linking which means…there are new troops there that were not previously there before. Kinda weird that I have to say something like that out loud.

          This also completely ignores the fact that the largest country in the world, specifically massing troops on all borders of a specific country isn’t the same as having them distributed anywhere in the country.

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        The Southern military district is headquartered in Rostov on Don since 2010, which is 100 km from the Ukrainian border. It would be very strange if there were no military units stationed before this year.

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          That has nothing to do with the recent escalation of military presence, which I know that you know, so why are you wasting both my time and yours?

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              There is a substantial new troop presence at a scale without recent precedent and you’re just trying to change the subject. It has recently been reported as 190,000 troops. Literally none of the articles cited by you or your friend have those kinds of figures.

              So to recap:

              • The Rostov base has nothing to do with anything
              • a news cycle about a picture has nothing to do with anything
              • The timeline of previous buildups have nothing to do with anything.

              You’re just cycling through stupid derails, one after another. Next you’re probably going to post a news article about how a reporter said something wrong about Russia in 2017 and say “what about this?!?!” And that, too, will have nothing to do with anything.

              You’re continuing to waste my time and yours, which I’m guessing is the goal here.

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                Yes a lot has been reported, but actual proof is never given. Thats probably why you didnt bother linking any sources for your claims.

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      To discourage Russia from invading it’s neighbors, maybe? As it repeatedly has. You’re not suggesting that the massed troops aren’t a direct threat, are you? Because the last time that happened, Russia did indeed invade Ukraine.

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        Russia has never invaded Ukraine. If you are talking about Crimea, there was a referendum held on joining Russia, and the large majority agreed. Not surprising when a fascist coup is happening, and nationalist militias intend to murder ethnic Russians.

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          Untrue, comrade. Donbas was lousy with Russian troops. You’ve got quite a list of lies there, too. The best one is divining intent without a shred of evidence.

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            Using that logic, NATO has invaded Ukraine since Ukraine is crawling with NATO troops.

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            I have watched videos from Donbass, and there was not a single Russian soldier to be seen. But if you are so sure, show me a single picture/video of a soldier with Russian insignia in Donbass. It is true that individual Russians travelled to Donbass and joined the militia. Nothing wrong with that, fascists from all the western countries are fighting alongside the Ukrainian military.

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              Lol, they dropped that pretense quite a while ago. You’re late to the disinformation campaign. The little green men are so 2014.

              Also, if everyone looks like a fascist to you, is that because you’re a communist?

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                How would you call these guys?

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                  Dudes with no sense of irony. Probably dead to Russian shelling that Russia still denies.