• zephyrvs
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    1 year ago

    I don’t know about “peak urbanism”, because this is a far cry from the elegant systems in like Singapore or China but yeah, this is so much better than having cars clogging the streets.

    Let’s just make sure to remain sceptical of the state in this regard and ve vigilant. They’ll use every chance they get to introduce smart city stuff in there that’ll be harvested forever without your true consent.

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      1 year ago

      elegant systems in like Singapore or China

      how’s grass on tram tracks contradictory to any of that

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        1 year ago

        It’s not, the picture just shows very terrible german trams on even more terrible rails and since I have to take these every day, you can trust me that they’re uncomfortable, shaky and stand no chance against whatever they’re using in Singapore, for example.

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          1 year ago

          these tracks are in helsinki, and these are finnish trams, i think skoda may be exporting them to germany, and i don’t know what you guys do with them there, but these are pretty comfortable personally (even comparing to SBB trains, which travel so smoothly that it makes me dizzy, bc there’s very little sensory points of reference)

          you’re most likely having a poor experience bc the tram tracks have fallen into disrepair, bc even comparatively old trams (from the 1970s and the like) can be pretty comfortable on proper tracks (take budapest, their fleet consist largely of older models, but due to good track maintenance and relative straightness of tracks themselves, it’s a pretty good experience)

          not sure why you’re extrapolating your particular experience onto something so vast and vague as “public transport systems outside of china and singapore”, not to mention that a decent amount of comfort is a baseline that good systems of public transport operate off of, with accessibility, frequency and location being more important factors

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            1 year ago

            You are totally right, that was way too broad an assumption. I guess you’re right and my government just doesn’t maintain the rails. I only took issue with the use of “peak” here, but going straight for an authoritarian pseudo-utopia wasn’t necessary.