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Cake day: Oct 21, 2020


A few off the top of my head:



Spam @dessalines@lemmy.ml @nutomic@lemmy.ml @AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml @kixiQu@lemmy.ml

It’s interesting how some of these accounts have been registered for a long time, this one since March, just to post a single spam post 8 months later.

I very much doubt they’re blocking the entire TLD. But it might be a red flag that increases the “spam score” of a specific domain, for example.

I used lemmy.ml for a while before it got blocked. And different subdomains were blocked in different ways. join.lemmy.ml presented a web page saying outright that it was blocked, while lemmy.ml just wouldn’t load.

On its own I would be inclined to agree now. But I hope you see the pattern where several users have almost exclusively posted links to this site, some of which are definitely spam and have resulted in bans. I’d put this site and user on a watch list.

Right, that’s definitely extenuating. But I still think the pattern is suspect, that several users are almost exclusively posting links to this site, some of which are definitely spam. Perhaps not sufficient to decisively remove or ban anything, but I’d definitely put this on my watch list.

If so it seems to be an unnaturally popular site, with 9/10 of persian/arabic posts by several different users being links to it, and centered around a store for some reason. It’s not impossible that it’s legit, I guess, but it smells very strongly of fish.

For other examples you might be able to see through my comment history for my other spam reports. The modlog also show some of the posts that have been removed, but mostly the users just seem to be banned directly, with their posts going down the drain with them.

There’s reporting functionality in the works: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/1197

But for now pinging the admins seems to be the only reliable way of getting this addressed relatively quickly.

Take a look at the user’s post history. Except for one post they’re all from the same site and across several widely different topics. From its front page the site appears to be an online store of some kind. It has also been involved in several other spam posts from other users lately, who are now banned.

More spam @dessalines@lemmy.ml @nutomic@lemmy.ml @AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml @kixiQu@lemmy.ml

There’s another post by the same user as well. (edit: actually there’s quite a few going back a few days)

I had the same problem a few weeks ago. My ISP blocked it through DNS. There’s also been reports that lemmy.ml URLs are blocked on Facebook. It could be that lemmy.ml has ended up on some kind of block list, or that it contains some red flags that trigger spam detection algorithms.

In my case I found my ISP offered a separate set of DNS servers without blocking, so I just switched to those. If yours don’t you might try to switch to UncensoredDNS, Google Public DNS, OpenDNS or some other DNS provider.

The user had posted several other posts, now removed (though I can still see my reports of them in my comment history), that linked to the same site and were a lot more obvious.

But it’s pretty clear to me that Reddit’s model of “English by default” doesnt work

I don’t think that’s so much a problem of (de facto) English by default, but rather that other languages are not encouraged or facilitated for in any way. English is dominant here as well, for much the same reason. As well as being by far the most commonly known language in the world, of course.

If you want a linguistically diverse platform you’re going to have to encourage and facilitate it. Language tagging seems like a great start, if done so that it’s both highly discoverable and easy to use.

Either way I don’t think English by default is going to matter, though I can still see why you wouldn’t want to fragment communities by language when you know language tags are coming. It would still help to set expectations clearly already now though. If you don’t, most people are just going to assume it’s English by default anyway.

Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure all the posts are removed as well.


What threw me off was this:

while other languages must be specifically allowed by each community.

Right, by that I just mean that it should be obvious from the community name or description that languages other than English are allowed, or even required. Otherwise posting in a language other than English would be a valid reason for removal.

if it was something as a sidebar rule sure, it wouldn’t do any damage (would it?), but your wording makes it look like something else to my eyes.

Yeah, just a sidebar rule should be sufficient I think. And just as a default so it shouldn’t do any harm I think. Maybe I should have said site-wide instead of instance-wide, which is perhaps a bit technical and specific to federation.

p.s. About the SEO part: what is SEO-gaming? A quick search leads me to “search engine optimisation”; I don’t think it’s right, am I wrong?

No, that’s right. Search engines have complex algorithms to determine the importance of web pages. Among the most important factors in these algorithms are the number of incoming links and the importance of the origin of those links. A common way of trying to game these algorithms is therefore to post links on other sites accepting user-generated content, along with some blurb to try to make it seem legitimate, both to fool the users and admins of the site and to avoid the fraud detection of search engines.

I agree on all points, but I’d also like to point out that some of these are spam, and possibly SEO-gaming. And it’s difficult for mods of these communities to catch that if they don’t understand the language.

I think it would be a good idea to have an instance-wide policy that English is the default language, while other languages must be specifically allowed by each community.

Another one for the headphones I think, or a proper audiophile setup. Josin has an absolutely amazing voice, and needs very little else to carry a song. What little she does bring mostly just serves to set up an atmosphere for her voice to float on. And float it does…

“Nordic folk infused alternative rock”. We’ll see what the rest of the debut album brings, but so far I like it!..

Figured this was relevant from a Manufacturing Consent POV, but feel free to let me know if you think it’s outside the scope of this sub. …