some projects/ideas i found in the last couple of years, that try to solve our current problem of the internet being a centralized structure that is controllable by big corporations or governments and not so easily usable with mesh technology or when not being connected for long amounts of time

https://scuttlebutt.nz/docs/introduction/

https://ipfs.tech/#why

https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/

https://www.inverse.com/science/39507-mesh-networks-net-neutrality-fcc

https://zeronet.io/

https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/low-budget-p2p-content-distribution-with-git.gmi

https://geti2p.net/en/

https://redecentralize.github.io/alternative-internet/

https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns

https://netsukuku.freaknet.org/

https://hyperboria.net/

https://urbit.org/

https://agregore.mauve.moe/

https://www.hyphanet.org/

http://libertreeproject.org/

    • Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      61·
      8 months ago

      Lightning is a terrible protocol. The Lightning devs themselves state that it’s basically unusable and you shouldn’t even try sending transactions valued more than a few hundred dollars. If you’re bored, check out the history of Lightning; it’s almost like a satire of software development project.

      You’re also being a little disingenuous about the nature of Nostr and it’s relatioship to crypto.

      The “market cap” polemic is a piece of propaganda. If you tried selling all that bitcoin, the price would tank and you would see exponential declines in the “market cap”.

      • chebra@mstdn.io
        3·
        8 months ago

        @Alphane_Moon @makeasnek

        > you shouldn’t even try sending transactions valued more than a few hundred dollars

        this is true about all of the alternatives too, Lightning is just the only one honest about it. And as someone who’s been using lightning to pay my phone bills, I can say it works ok.

        • Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          8 months ago

          You don’t see the problem with a payment system that is fundamentally unreliable?

          Why would you pay your phone bills with lightning? I don’t know which country you live in, but where I lived there are so many easier methods to pay your phone bills.

          • chebra@mstdn.io
            11·
            8 months ago

            @Alphane_Moon You are the one saying it’s unreliable but also you are not using it. Here is someone using it and saying it is reliable ok. Go figure.

            • Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldEnglish
              41·
              8 months ago

              Why would I use a payment system that developers themselves call unreliable? Are you serious?

              I am not even talking about overall usability (i.e. recipient support) and UX/UI…

        • peregus@lemmy.world
          3·
          8 months ago

          millions are still being poured into development efforts

          Millions for development? Do you have any sources? I’d like to read about it. Thanks

        • Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          8 months ago

          All the individuals you mentioned made their contributions and statements under their real names.

          The Tor team largely publishes their work under their real names:

          https://www.torproject.org/about/people/

          They even have a board of directors:

          https://blog.torproject.org/announcing-new-board-members/

          Has the lead Nostro developer mentioned anything about his support for Olavo de Carvalho (the claim that “Pepsi-Cola was flavored with stem cells of aborted fetuses” is particularly wild)? I will note Stallman, Linus have provided feedback to public criticism of their statements/approaches.

          The Lemmy tankie issue is definitely a major problem.

    • fernandu00
      32·
      8 months ago

      Yeah, if they used monero instead of lightning would be a better option for the user. Not a lightning fan. Layer 2 solutions seems a waste of time and money for me, lightning included…but well, that’s the result of the blocksize war.

        • fernandu00
          4·
          8 months ago

          Yeah you’re probably right about that, I’m no expert and this make a lot of sense …I hope to see XMR face this transaction load issue…that would mean more people using it