I looked at this, and the idea seems very interesting being tied into a per application “firewall” which I think actually works more like per application routing, or even better per domain. This would actually be a big convenience to send some traffic that doesn’t like you being in one location to another vs a VPN. However, I can’t actually see how it would be better than a VPN necessarily.

  • First - it seems like it could not really work for SSL without MITM it at the browser level? Or it at least has to be DNS based (and still the HTTPS based DNS would thwart this) and therefore not really per domain right?

  • Second, what are they charging for here? It sounds like it’s access to TOR, though they claim it’s only TOR Like, I fail to see why anyone would provide them an exit node or transit node for free when they’re charging end users for access.

  • Presumably the reason people use VPNs rather than TOR is a mix of issues, but the main one I remember is performance. TOR is slow. I don’t see how this would be faster. The privacy one is that you’ve got the exit node issue which is the same as the VPN exit node (i.e. there are side channels to get identity, and you’re still having someone else seeing all exit info - in this case a random person rather than a company, we can decide which is more trustworthy, but I don’t think it’s an obvious win).

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    Basically a startup founded by rich guys (investing 200,000 euros) getting some state grants trying to sell crypto-friendly VPN (see the white paper). SPN stands for “Safing Privacy Network” (Safing being the company brand). Nothing new nor nice + marketing lies (VPN not being open-sourced nor easy…).