Hello, the name of this community is very long: “A community for the chromium…”

Also very misleading? It’s talking about a proprietary software with “modability” and “privacy”, both of which are properties fundamentally incompatible with proprietary software.

Just thought maybe you’d like to change the name because it’s not fitting well on many screens :)

  • @southerntofuOP
    3•2 years ago

    From reading the vivaldi business model, it appears to be very similar to Mozilla’s. After the failure of this model on Mozilla side, i was expecting a little more detail/transparency about how incomes and how the money is used: internal budgets, salaries… Personally, i’d be all for paying a subscription for a tech coop that paid its employees equal pay and provided great FOSS. Is there somewhere i can find more detailed information about Vivaldi’s business?

    Opera(??, it’s a Chinese Company, nothing to do with the old Opera until v12)

    Oh, i missed that!

    That Mozilla (…) don’t enter in the movement against surveillance advertising is clear, not because they don’t enter in politics,tey don’t enter because they use this system to gain money.

    Mozilla has been very involved in the push for free and open standards and against surveillance capitalism. I don’t know why you would say otherwise.

    • @pinknoise
      1•2 years ago

      i’d be all for paying a subscription for a tech coop that paid its employees equal pay and provided great FOSS.

      Then you’re absolutely wrong at vivaldi. They just provide a bloated proprietary reskin of chromium to collect money from amazon, microsoft, yahoo, yandex, aliexpress, airbnb and many more. Also they have some weird aversion to google, even though they profit from their work.

    • @Zerush
      1•2 years ago

      Vivaldi is a cooperative, owned by it’s employees, no extern investors, it’s depend only of the user itself who use one of the sponsored links or search engines, for example using Ecosia, Startpage or DDG create incommings for Vivaldi, also the selling of merchandising from its store. After the insistence of a large part of the users, it has also started accepting donations recently.

      https://vivaldi.com/company/

      Mozilla, as I said before, is a good browser and with good protections against third party surveillance, except from these of Google. You can opt out from the surveillance of Alphabet, but only request it directly in this company with your personal data (and hope that they respect it). Mozilla don’t have other business model for its incomming than this from Google, because of this it can’t go against this surveillance system (at least for the moment).