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I dug the rabbit hole.

I am not advocating Kbin or Lemmy. But it is interesting to me that the reason behind the inception of Kbin was related to Lemmy. See the full discussion here where the creator of Kbin, @ernest, stated:

The point is, I don’t want to create a lesser evil here. I want to create something truly good, which is why from the very beginning I’ve been striving to be transparent on all fronts. I’ll just say that before starting from scratch, I tried to create kbin as a fork of Lemmy. I like Rust, I respect them as architects and I’ve learned a lot about managing such a project. However, ultimately, I believe that I cannot remain indifferent to certain things. That’s why kbin is what it is now. Nevertheless, that collaboration with Lemmy’s developers can be beneficial for all of us at this stage. After all, Lemmy is not just one instance, and many amazing people are building the fediverse using this software.

What was those “certain things” we do not know. But the full discussion there revolves around the political views. Check it yourself. But at the end of the day, choose what suits you best since they are contribute to the same Threadiverse.

I believe that one of the Lemmy developer is a “tankie”. See https://lemmy.world/comment/311333, also https://lemmy.world/comment/329485 for supporting evidence. And the dev clearly stated that they (singular) denied a genocide is taking place.

But I don’t think using Lemmy itself supports the atrocities. However, it is difficult to explain all these to outsiders if we want to attract more users, especially when there are other Reddit alternatives.

On another topic, there are rumors circulating that we are fascists or supported genocide. These claims are completely false, and like most viral twitter threads, are coming from a single Mastodon user on a personal vendetta who didn’t provide any sources.

Well, they denied to be fascists or support genocide, without denying being “tankies”. I don’t know how they would respond to such claims, but I did found out that one of the developer did (or do?) hold “tankie” views. See https://lemmy.world/comment/311333 and https://lemmy.world/comment/329485 for more.

See https://lemmy.world/comment/311333, also https://lemmy.world/comment/329485.

People should go to whatever instance they feel comfortable with. At the moment, lemmy.ml is closed for signup though.

Nadya you are really persistent :) kudos to you

Beehaw.org removed the top link.

I have no opinion about donation or usage of lemmy, but I understand why you are unhappy.

See https://lemmy.world/comment/311333

Happy to help. :)

Update 3: @dessalines@lemmy.ml did stated they (singular) disagree that a genocide is taking place.

Update 2: My conclusion

• @dessalines@lemmy.ml, one of the developer of Lemmy, is a “tankie” who refuted the Uyghurs genocide.
• @dessalines@lemmy.ml is also an admin of and funds the website Lemmygrad.ml.

Update: So I dug around a little deeper, and found that

• @dessalines@lemmy.ml is /u/parentis_shotgun on Reddit. Source: https://archive.is/Ky9vd
• /u/parentis_shotgun moderates some subreddits, including r/InformedTankie, r/asktankies, r/GunZedong. Source: https://www.reddit.com/user/parentis_shotgun
• /u/parentis_shotgun got banned from r/socialism for “refuting the ‘China is genociding Uyghurs’”. Source: https://archive.is/CwFZC
• /u/parentis_shotgun then launched lemmy. Source: https://archive.is/132fW
• @muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml, one of the admin of lemmygrad.ml, referred to themself as @dssalines@lemmygrad.ml in a post on lemmygrad. They also claimed that they built Lemmy. It seems like @dssalines@lemmygrad.ml changed their username. Source: https://archive.is/LlzKb
• At this point, I am convinced that the admin @muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml is @dessalines@lemmy.ml.
• Another admin over lemmygrad.ml said that Lemmygrad is paid by @muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml, while another mod said that @muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml is funded by the NED. Source: https://archive.is/G5Dh7
• What is the NED? I have no idea, but Google suggests that could be The National Endowment for Democracy (NED), an independent, nonprofit foundation dedicated to the growth and strengthening of democratic institutions around the world.
• Lemmy was also funded by NLnet with financial support from the European Commission’s Next Generation Internet programme. Source: https://nlnet.nl/project/Lemmy/

On another topic, there are rumors circulating that we are fascists or supported genocide. These claims are completely false, and like most viral twitter threads, are coming from a single Mastodon user on a personal vendetta who didn’t provide any sources. Such slander doesn’t deserve any response and is best left ignored.

• Previous discussion on the moderation policy on lemmy.ml including response from @dessalines@lemmy.ml : Expressing concerns about moderation policy on lemmy.ml
• Accusation of a Mastodon user (probably the one they are referring to): https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379
• Essays from @dessalines@lemmy.ml: https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/socialism_faq.md

Update: More info about @dessalines@lemmy.ml

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