Cannibal take seems accurate, kinda how it feels looking in too. Not glad about any of these people in charge, but at least they hurt each other right now.

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Looks cool and stealthy. Whats kinda keeping me from homelab rn is both the price and the space/looks. You seemingly solved all of that with some creativity.

The way I see the federation system is it‘s basically like little states, except they are based on voluntary association.

So imagine for example if a bunch of people decided: I don‘t like how this country is run and so they are immediately teleported to the country of their choice and other than losing post history (which I hope can be fixed) there is no negative like IRL (it being expensive and purposefully hard to do).

Shitty countries that don‘t provide for their citizens would start to fall behind and fail. In a way this is happening with migration and one can hope also in business (those whining that nobody wants to work are a prime example), it‘s just the states who stop people and try to keep them captive to labor and fight and pay taxes etc.

Now in the fediverse on the other hand, it’s as easy as making an account, so if my state turns into a corporate bureaucracy I will pack my bags and leave. Plus with some tech knowhow, if I don‘t like any of the states I‘m making my own. So yeah, I‘m excited and I hope it grows!

Most certainly if this grows big enough corporations will join in if only to market whatever products to the userbase.

What you can do is to work on supporting/curating instances which don‘t want this. Try to see what kind of people are in charge and what their reaction would be. For example I‘m also on an instance (http://lemmy.dbzer0.com/) created by a r/piracy mod who I‘m fairly certain wouldn‘t federate with corporations or let his instance be controlled by them.

Lemmy.ml which I‘m also on, probably not positive with US companies, but might federate with Chinese companies.

What makes all this not a big concern for me is how easy it is for me to drop an instance and go to another one, but I‘m also not attached to my users in general, hopefully we can get some export/import functions for cases where we need to abandon somewhere (unless it exists and I haven‘t seen it yet?).

Lol critical reacting to this is a weird vertigo moment for me. He hit some good points there, if only he mentioned fediverse it would‘ve been perfect.

I think Reddit will be kept alive by sycophants and bots for a long, long time. However, to me it is dead and gone right now. I‘m not even following links to it anymore, only through archives, can‘t get more dead than that.

You just got me to go on Twitter for the first time in a long while to see if he had said anything on this whole fiasco. So here is what I found from him. Someone asked about it and he responded “no comment” and then when he got challenged on that:

I resigned in protest 3 years ago to push the company to ban Hate communities. I have nothing to say.

Feels like the API stuff or monetary loss wouldn’t be a the issue here, but he had an understandable disgust with some of the communities that were on Reddit and the inaction on them. Most likely wouldn‘t support fediverse (which also contains hate communities) and is still on Twitter unbothered by Musk and all that mess, which I think is fascinating considering how many more Q crazy MAGA racists I see now whenever I follow a Twitter link.

I‘m not even his target audience (I‘m further left), but I‘ve seen some clips of his show and he‘s funny, would be neat to have a sort of “Downfall of Corporate Social Media” episode featuring spez. I‘d watch that.

Now things click into place. Friends with Musk, probably didn‘t enjoy reading negative things about him on Reddit so much so he‘s imitating him to get all left-leaning or in general free thinking people off his platform, only permitting these standardised liberal right of center views. These two guys straight up want their own little propaganda echo chamber that some groups don‘t fit into and this is how to get rid of them.

I hope so much the fediverse takes off, they don‘t deserve to be rewarded for this behaviour. There needs to be a degrowth of these platforms to a point in time where we don‘t even talk about it. Unless referencing it‘s death, who talks about Digg? That is what I want for Reddit, Twitter and those that destroyed them.

All lies, they‘ve straight up been removing mods like they want to cleanse them from the website and forcibly reopen their subs, NO voting on it! It‘s “reopen of gtfo”, that‘s the message they are sending.

This moral appeal to democracy is transparent and laughable, they must think Redditors are completely brainless to swallow that turd, and maybe he is right seeing those who cheer for this.

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I feel like creating a good community here with interesting content and discussion is more important atm. If that happens, the people will come. Though maybe I say that cause I don‘t want to bother going on Reddit at all.

Cool setup! Please tell me about the guy lurking behind the corner in the middle monitor to the right. Some kind of TV show/movie?

Underrated comment. The best revenge is living well, and if we grow lemmy or any other fediverse communities, that‘s what we are doing.

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This headline is missing a “yet”.

Almost but not entirely I think, when reading the documentation I discovered a tidbit about how federation works, you can set up an instance to work with either: open to all, block list (open to all except those blocked) or allow list (meaning you block all and allow only those on the list).

So your new instance would be able to federate with the first two, but it wouldn‘t with instances who work with allow list. I‘m not yet aware of those, but if it‘s an option it probably exists.

Please anyone correct me if I am wrong, still trying to wrap my head around this!

I love you for explaining this so clearly, I was actually so confused about this I may or may not have misinformed someone else, oops.

Not with me, but if they did do that I think maybe some amount of people would be placated.

I‘m actually now enjoying the fediverse for what it is and what it can be. It feels like exploring new tech and community concepts and so on, it‘s exciting stuff and my focus has switched from “taking refuge” to joy at the opportunity to experience these decentralised instances growing. It feels like Reddit did for me around 2008 or so, when I first started exploring it as a teen (oh god I‘m getting old now pls help).

That is probably the main reason why no amount of carrot or stick would fully get me back on Reddit again. Maybe I might make a throwaway and log on a bit to get potential posts for lemmy, since I do now avoid even that much out of spite for spez lol.

Oooh I consume these types of anti-labour news a lot, so I can provide at least a few examples of open disdain for unions (or those they represent).

https://www.wcbi.com/barstool-sports-co-founder-settles-over-anti-union-rant/

Me too. Just so I can crush it and reassert my dominance.

Mask off indeed, more clearly it couldn‘t have been said. Authority and dominance seems to be the root of this struggle of CEOs against those lower in the hierarchy.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/20/business/nightcap-ceos-behaving-badly/index.html

An article detailing a few more such cases, which a few of them I had heard about on Reddit before. I doubt we‘ll hear of it as much in the future. I would highlight this nugget:

Her response was, more or less: Shut up about the dang bonuses and focus on your jobs. (She later apologized in an email to staff, saying she was sorry her message “seemed insensitive.” (A sentiment that would probably go a bit further if she’d subbed “was” for “seemed,” but whatever.))

https://fortune.com/2022/12/29/bernie-marcus-home-depot-woke-people-socialism-labor-shortage/

"People just hate capitalism now. Because of “socialism,” he said in an interview with the Financial Times published Thursday, “nobody works. Nobody gives a damn. ‘Just give it to me. Send me money. I don’t want to work—I’m too lazy, I’m too fat, I’m too stupid.’’

Great view he has of the working class huh? How nice of him to put it all out there so nobody has to wonder.

If you continue the article, you can find even more shining examples of this condescending mentality right out in the open:

Last year, online mortgage company Better.com fired more than 900 employees after CEO Vishal Gard publicly accused hundreds of staffers of being unproductive, not working long or hard enough, and therefore “stealing” from the company and its clients. Much of the criticism has been aimed at younger members of the workforce, who earlier this year were referred to as a “very entitled generation that has never had to sacrifice” by BlackRock President Robert Kapito.

Cryptobros are gross too (I even like using Monero and before that Bitcoin but fuck me do I hate these Crypto CEOs with a passion!)

https://cryptoslate.com/kraken-ceo-lashes-out-against-some-employees-for-being-bad-fit/

If you look at his tweets, he entertained debate for a bit because he is openminded, but then “back to dictatorship it is” since they need to “help billions of people” … by making billions off scamming people with shitcoins I guess.

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2023/06/05/jeff-blau-to-class-b-office-owners-take-what-you-can-and-run/

“It’s like a social movement,” said the 40-something, who struck a resemblance to his online identity: a cartoon brown-haired guy in a sweater vest. “Our next generation is very against going to the office. It’s a big issue that’s a lot bigger than a lot of us realize.”

Oh no, a social movement!! Scary! Workers have opinion and say them on Twitter! He had to stop tweeting at them that WFH sucks cause they said mean words. :(

Funny to me is how many of those articles are on websites you‘d think of as serving business interests, and yet they seem critical of CEOs anyway, maybe because there is no way you can twist their actions or words to the positive. At least not for me.

See another one which is less about words and more about perceptions: https://www.business.com/articles/broken-pedestals-the-dark-sides-of-popular-ceos/

I went for that cause it‘s got one quote by Fuckerberg that fits nicely with what I am presenting in this comment:

“You can be unethical and still be legal; that’s the way I live my life.”

How well put! That is exactly it, no ethics or ethics they do have and actively choose to ignore. Our leaders, ladies and gentlemen.

I could go further here and give examples in German too since I am aware of those as well, and politicians jump on it too to appease their sponsors I guess, but at least here our unions are representing workers too so it‘s less unipolar torrent of shit falling down, we can sling it right back up.