• redtea@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      I imagine a certain amount had to be public so the west knows who’s ducking sanctions and can prevent import tax evasion, etc.

      Edit: meaning it’s catch 22. Hide the manifest and not be able to dock anywhere. Or makeb it public and let your enemies know what you’re carrying.

      Also, it might be the export countries who log the data to show everyone that they’re being honest?

      • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        No, I just meant remove the manifests from public view.

        I am sure that shipping authorities already have that information, they’re not going to random sites for it.

        • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          11 months ago

          Oh, I see what you mean. It could easily be shared on a need to know basis. I imagine that there’s money in it somewhere. Wouldn’t be surprised to find that the ports sell the information and the ships can pay like $15/month to l for privacy but want to saveb the cost lol

          • davel [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            11
            ·
            11 months ago

            I don’t know why @ComradeSalad wants to believe Ansar Allah is just three kids in a trenchcoat, incapable of identifying, targeting, or denying corporate shipping vessels from passing through a famously thin & fragile choke point right off their own shores.

            • davel [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              7
              ·
              11 months ago

              It’s likely I think that this has been in their playbook for a years, and the people executing it now have been training for it for who knows how long.

              • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                15
                ·
                11 months ago

                Most of what I hear, it’s like Palestine is chaos, which it is, of course. That doesn’t mean there aren’t Palestinians calmly making decisions. I remember they spoke about a plan to ask their allies for certain types of help when the time’s right. We might be seeing that now. I think they’ve planned for the long haul and I don’t think they’ll be deterred by Israel’s brutality (the opposite, I would believe). It’s easy to forget all this when the news is doing war-gore porn 24-7 as if Palestinians are entertainment.

        • notceps [he/him]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          11 months ago

          Ships generally have to broadcast a bunch of stuff, like name, from where to where, number of crew etc. constantly while at sea, so all anyone really needs is the ability to receive broadcasts and they can receive those messages and figure out which ships to hit. If a bunch of ships are sending their info but this one isn’t you can also assume that that ship is trying to do shifty things so. Besides if they have a lot of people looking at it they can track ships from further away than just right off their coast.

    • davel [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      It’s already a logical leap to assume Ansar Allah is using manifest data, before getting to the hypotheticals of shutting down those data services.