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    It doesn’t really seem that way. I only ever hear about how evil Republicans are and how starving and precious the Democrats are. I think you’re all fucking stupid for thinking stances on subjects need to be clumped together in categories. I want universal healthcare, basic income, and the right to carry a gun for the next time police come to wreck my life over a false accusation made by a violent asshole!

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      Do things typically go well for people who use firearms against police? Is this some sort of crazy shit that I’m too Canadian to understand?

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      and the right to carry a gun for the next time police come to wreck my life over a false accusation made by a violent asshole!

      “I want the right to execute public officials for doing their lawful jobs (for once) when I am accused of a crime and must go through the processes everyone must in order to ensure some modicum of justice instead of rampant crime or vigilante action”

      Uh, gonna go ahead and say that’s the fucking stupidest thing I’ve heard today.

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        I’ve been through the process. They forced a guilty plea out of me by holding me indefinitely. There’s nothing right about any of the times law has come after me. You can dress it up pretty all you like. I shouldn’t have to be helpless when facing unfair treatment and conditions I cannot mentally tolerate.

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          Yeah it’s a shame you didn’t have your gun when you were held by the police indefinitely. Surely, if you had murdered a few cops they would have let you go.

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            Nah, they’d have killed me and that’s better than being subjected to their jail conditions. If also have killed them and maybe they will be less inclined to push random innocent people so far afterwards. I feel no empathy for them after what they’ve put me through. None.

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              Of course! Because no one is allowed to be a police officers anymore other than the ones already on the job, so if you kill one, their numbers go permanently down! That cop you kill to stop them from pushing random innocent people around will never be replaced by another cop. You would definitely have done something very useful.

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              maybe they will be less inclined to push random innocent people

              So far thinking that guns will solve this problem has ingrained an “us vs them” attitude, led to no-knock raids and militarization of police. How’s that working for you?

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            That is my intention. If I win by some miracle, that’s ok too. My point isn’t just gun for me though. Gun for everyone!

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              Oh your point is well-taken and masterfully demonstrated, my friend. Guns for every unhinged whack-a-doodle among us. Go 'murica!

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          Yeah I’m totally sure this comment isn’t excluding necessary context at all

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            I’m not gonna give you identifying details random stranger. The story is obviously much longer than that, but I don’t expect anyone to believe me and it’s not worth the effort to type out on my phone at work.

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              Well hey man, if your goal was to make a bunch of strangers think that you’re a crazy and probably dangerous jackass, then congrats because you’re fucking nailing it right now.

              If your goal was anything other than that, you should probably either take more consideration about the things you say or at the very least be willing to explain or elaborate on the mad ramblings flowing from your frothing mouth.

              But you do you do, I guess. Just preferably far as fuck away from me.

              edit: minor typo

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              Even if stipulate to your inference that you were treated wrongly in many ways, attempted murder is not a reasonable response to most of them.

              We’d all be cheering for you to get a huge settlement, for any illegal cop activity to be severely punished (for real), for fame and notoriety over a victory for the little people …. But instead you come across as someone unstable enough that you should not have access to firearms.

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      You ever read one of those heartwarming stories about a woman who paid somebody’s medical debt?

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      The Democrats and the Republicans are both on the side of Capital, the Republicans just want fascism as well. The left is the side that is demonized by the media just as much as the fascists.

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        Everyone is demonizing and censoring everyone and playing innocent. Fuck literally everyone who uses labels and uses filters to suppress others. Why can’t we just sit here and argue about the actual subject points individually like decent goddamn human beings?!

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          Why can’t we just sit here and argue… like decent goddamn human beings?!

          This you?

          I think you’re all fucking stupid

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            Include the rest of the comment obviously. I’m done replying to someone who’s making a blatant spin.

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              It isn’t blatant spin, it’s you got called out for arguing against your own positions. If you are genuine you’d do some introspection.

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          Everyone calling you stupid and telling you to shove your stupidity up your ass is not censorship. You aren’t being suppressed, you are being evaluated, and if that makes you feel like you should shut up, then the free market of ideas is working.

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            Yeah no, that’s all fine. We’re talking about Nexus mods here though. What they did was censor.

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              And they completely have that right, seeing as they own the website? Where did this come from? What are you on?

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                Yeah, and Facebook similarly has the right to their mass influence and control over who sees what around election time. I think they shouldn’t have that right though. Facebook is not a person. Companies aren’t people. Their capacity for doing damage should be open to audit. There’s a reason your food requires a list of ingredients.

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          That’s more of a centrist take. It makes perfect sense for trans allies to demonize transphobes, for example. Nobody is advocating against constructive conversation, but sometimes views are genuinely rooted in malice and thus cannot be reasoned with.

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            Keep your labels to yourself, and no it doesn’t make sense to demonize, ever. Take literally myself for example. I’m into futas and whatnot, but lots of gay dudes genuinely freak me out. It’s not the gayness, but some other creepy shit that comes packaged with it. I was literally stalked in the shower by multiple dudes in the homeless shelter and staff did nothing. I had a dude in jail who convinced the COs to make him my celly because he thought I would hook up with him and when I denied him he became violent about it. This is just the two most strand out examples. Gay dudes actually creep me out. You gonna demonize me for that?

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              I’m not sure you want to take a middle ground between being transphobic and being a trans ally, as that’s just transphobia. The transphobes should, in fact, be shunned and demonized for being bigots.

              Homophobia ain’t cool either.

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                Your problem is that you’re calling it what is not to have an easier time ridiculing and sounding cool. Malice and fear are not the same. Don’t give the malice camp allies from the fearful camp.

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                  Neither malice nor fear are good when directed at minority populations, and pretending one is better than the other when they breed each other is again a meaningless centrist take.

                  I’m flattered that you think I sound cool, though 😎

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                    You’re a guilt by association kind of guy, and you’re complaining about guilt by association people…

                    For the record, I’m not defending malice. That’s just lunacy.

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          But you’re the one who brought in assigned labels to begin with?

          That’s why we can’t “just sit here and argue”, because you’d eventually end up arguing against yourself. Thanks for cutting out the rest of the loop the “but my free speech” people would normally need to be guided through before the conclusion was reached.

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          Weirdly, most people I hear about being “censored” are able to tell everyone in the world how censored they are.

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      I want universal healthcare, basic income, and the right to carry a gun for the next time police come to wreck my life over a false accusation made by a violent asshole!

      The only things Republicans care about in this list is guns. Perhaps you can give us some examples of policy proposals the GOP has made in the last few years that don’t involve removing rights from people and consolidate presidential power?

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        You’re forgetting the other two inconsolable topics in G.A.G.

        Did you learn nothing in school about the major parties and their stances? I’m not exactly defending our indoctrinating school system here, but my point stands the same. You’re super simplifying literally just for the sake of demonizing your opposition. Either that, or you actually believe the strawman shit.

        Toss the labels. The only people being offered as president choices are both just different flavors of rich who don’t care about you. Let guns abortions and gays rot because they’ll never be solved. Consider right to repair or employee exploitation. Make progress where it’s actually possible!

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          I’m simply asking for proposals by the GOP that look to solve issues, not remove rights, or consolidate power. It really shouldn’t be hard if they exist. But then again, we are talking about the same group that put out in 2020 that their party platform was just “Whatever Trump wants.”

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            Why engage with the label? You’re only going to come up against tribalism that way. They think Democrats are baby killers trying to take away their means to protect themselves and encourage their kids to do stuff they think is yucky. That’s what the labels are doing for them, so they band with their group and fire shots the other way without thinking just the same. The labels make every attempt at improving life worthless while the rich among us exploit the drama.

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              He’s not talking about the label he’s asking a very good, specific question:

              Name a policy proposal or decision made by the GOP as it stands since 2016 that has been aimed at helping anyone, improving anything, or otherwise taking steps to accomplish anything outside of stonewalling democrats and stripping rights away from conservatives “out groups”, and consolidating power/attacking election rights.

              I will even open this up to include state level legislation.

              Go ahead.

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          Let guns abortions and gays rot because they’ll never be solved. Consider right to repair or employee exploitation. Make progress where it’s actually possible!

          Fuck women’s rights and LGBT people, you have a class war to wage, huh?

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      Lol! Sometimes these days I think I’m in, The Truman Show. I mean I have to be, right?.. This can’t be what the culmination of human evolution has created. It’s all too implausible to be true.