I actually have some telemetry enabled on my system, cause I want the maintainers of my distro to have more data to base their decisions on. I always disable everything for proprietary software though, and I dislike opt-out systems.
I only enable telemetry for software provided by nonprofit organizations that are legally obligated to publish detailed financial records. Never give anyone that reserves the right to sell you out any of the benefit of your data for free.
reserves the right to sell you out
Is Canonical actually doing that, though? Collecting data for product improvement purposes and collecting it to potentially sell to third parties are two wildly different things, and doing the former, even with the user’s consent, does not mean you automatically reserve the right to do the latter (or anything else, really) with the collected data, unless you explicitly already include that as an option and get consent for it as well. I haven’t looked into it myself, so I might be wrong here, but I’m guessing Canonical would be getting way more shit for this if they were actually reserving the right to outright sell the telemetry they’re collecting, rather than just use it for product planning and development.
If they ask nicely, maybe I will accept. The KDE guys have telemetry iirc, they get what they need.
Just why?
It’s been really sad watching them shoot themselves in the foot like this. They seem bent on destroying their distro. Which was the first distro I really used on an old laptop after trying a few.
Man Ubuntu 16 those were the days.
It’s also amazing they even try because a good percentage of Ubuntu users are likely knowledgeable tech users who like to stay aware of their software. Many of them are probably former or current Microsoft or Apple users who want to avoid big corporate OS systems because of creeping advertising.
Why? Because it’s working, at least for now.
Canonical has pulled similar shit for years now. Remember the Amazon search integration? They do it again and again, yet most users stay.
And I know, someone will comment “but I totally ditched Ubuntu and my one friend did too!!!”, but how is Ubuntu still the most popular distribution? Finding snaps is easier than finding flatpacks or debs or rpms. Finding support is easier, etc. This might be just momentum, but until that is running out, it’s working.
He said Ubuntu 16, I believe the Amazon search fiasco was in 2012. He simply hasn’t been using Linux long enough to know that Ubuntu used to be good. His baseline user experience is probably gnome 3.
So he’s comparing extra-shitty Ubuntu to shitty Ubuntu and saying it didn’t used to be shitty.
I know that amazon search was there also in 16.04 because it was my first distro and in my country i only briefly heard about amazon so it looked cool to me to have one button to order something but i never clicked on it because i tought it only works in rich countries or something. At that time i didnt gave a crap about privacy i was sold on it because i liked the design of unity and the fact that it looks different than school pcs with windows so it didnt remind me school
Ubuntu actually still had the unity desktop environment when I started using it. And I wasn’t happy when they switched to gnome. Thats part of why I stopped using it
Microsoft:
adding telemetry to the terminal.
(in a recent poweshell update)with microsoft, it’s everyday affair.
What??? For realsies???
Kind of, they have announcements in the terminal sometimes and telemetry wont go out unless you confirm you want it to. I personally have it disabled, but its not invasive.
This is the “ad”. Personally, I don’t think a little plug like this is worth any kind of fuss. If it were a real ad or something, then yea I would get it.
An ad is an ad and this definitely is an ad. This is the kind of shit that made me quit Windows and it would make me quit Ubuntu if I was using it.
Looking at your history, you really hate Ubuntu u/RmDebArc_5, don’t you?
I don’t hate Ubuntu, it used to be my favorite distro and I haven’t found anything that really replaces it. I hate Canonical for destroying my favorite distro
Debian 12 is the best destination after Ubuntu if you’re switching because you hate stupid Canonical things. I switched a few months ago and it was really easy and has been awesome.
I used Debian quite a while after switching from Ubuntu, but the outdated packages made me quit. I will probably try Debian testing/sid soon
Debian Stable is an excellent replacement for Ubuntu LTS.
Mint is an excellent replacement for mainline Ubuntu.
Linux Mint Debian Edition. Has a lot of the comforts and niceties you got from Ubuntu compared to Debian.
Been using this for the last few months on my laptop, overall a pretty solid experience.
Go with Arch, it has just as many packages available as Ubuntu and more, if you use the AUR. If you want something more stable/less changing use the LTS kernel instead of the mainline kernel.
Currently on EndeavorOS
Telemetry is significantly less invasive than on windows or Mac, and is completely optional during installation, after which you will never be asked to turn it on again
What? Is that so? What happened with ubuntu?
It snapped
I clapped
Damn, guess I should go back to Windows /s
Hannah Montana Linux, huh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aotzo4tyvM4
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=Aotzo4tyvM4
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Thought for sure that was gonna be the MJD video. How wrong I was.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=LdRSq9cetVY
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
what telemetry?
Which version of Ubuntu you’re installing (including which flavour), Whether you have network connectivity, Hardware stats, including CPU, RAM, GPU, etc, Your device vendor (e.g., Dell, Lenovo, etc), Your country (based on the time zone you pick, not IP), How long your install took to complete, Whether you have auto login enabled, Your disk layout (how many hard drives and partitions you have), Whether you chose to install third party codecs, Whether you chose to download updates during install
(According to OMG!Ubuntu) Most distros offer optional telemetry, but Ubuntu’s is opt out not opt in (for GNOME you have to separately install the telemetry)
Ubuntu’s is opt out not opt in
I haven’t installed ubuntu in a while, but in EU you need to have prior consent from the user to gather any kind of data and if I remember correctly I haven’t seen such thing. And it’s not enough to bury that into documentation and say ‘if you use our software you allow us to blah blah’, you must get consent via an action from the user which spesifically allows that, so if telemetry comes silently with ‘apt dist-upgrade’ it’s not enough.
In Ubuntu in the post install screen theres is the telemetry screen where they explain it, allow you opt out and give you a json example of the data they’re collecting from your machine.
I wish you the best in filing a complaint
That sounds surprisingly tame list.
Oh no…
Why would they do this to themselves?! Why?!
Telling people about in-house programs in this manner is fine imo. If it was third party stuff I’d leave Ubuntu, but as it stands it’s still a great distro.
“You’re right Mr. CMO! The frogs are warming up!”
First the deliberate there/their BS on the other post, and now literally ? Yeah you’re definitely a real user with no other motivations whatsoever. Fuck off shill
