• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    George Carlin agrees.

    I’ve begun worshipping the sun for a number of reasons. First of all, unlike some other gods I could mention, I can see the sun. It’s there for me every day. And the things it brings me are quite apparent all the time: heat, light, food, and a lovely day. There’s no mystery, no one asks for money, I don’t have to dress up, and there’s no boring pageantry. And interestingly enough, I have found that the prayers I offer to the sun and the prayers I formerly offered to ‘God’ are all answered at about the same 50% rate.

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      Sometimes I wonder if there was a George Carlin based religion where he was the profit of secularism or something if he would hate it or would get a kick out of it. I know it’s the former but he was also pretty twisted in his last days.

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    Honestly worshipping the sun the river the mountain and the tree makes so much more sense than the abrahamic religions.

    Like why shouldn’t the spirit of cats be happy when I feed some cats. Why should the god of the mountain not punish me for littering. It simply makes more sense for your spiritual thoughts or emotions to be grounded in specific phenomenon.

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      That’s probably how those “gods” came into being in folklore. In order for people to be kinder and more considerate, supposed religious scholars used the fear of God as a tool to be better.

      Which is based, but down the line bad faith actors use this for personal gain.

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      Like why shouldn’t the spirit of cats be happy when I feed some cats.

      I think this is literally true, if you assume that the spirit of cats is inside the cats, rather than some mystical universal phenomenon.

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      Its real and true about some rules that in no way relate to the real world. Just like a video game has rules, yet it in no way describes reality.

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        It is real because we all believe it. The video game is a good example, we can shut it down and all your items are gone. Same with economy.

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          It’s real because we practice it. If we stopped commerce that doesn’t disprove the existence of the economy, it just ends one existing economy.

          If we all stopped talking it wouldn’t prove the spoke word is a myth.

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            To come back to the meme: it implies that while the sun is real, the Christianity isn’t. But it is as long as it’s practiced, same with economy

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              Christianity as a practiced religion is real. The figures in Christianity which Christians worship are not, at least we have no hard evidence of them being real.

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              It doesn’t imply that Christianity isn’t real, but rather it’s the focus of their worship that doesn’t exist.

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          I mean a lot of concepts in economics are descriptive, they note phenomenon that just happen when humans engage in trade or resource allocation amongst each other.

          It’s basically the three body problem but with sharing according to the maximum satisfaction of want and need instead of gravitational fields.

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        Kind of both. The science of economics is full of models with false assumptions and self fulfilling prophecies. Economy exists because we believe it does and because of said self fulfilling prophecies

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          It’s not even a science. It does not use the scientific method. It’s the bastard child of statistics and capitalist philosophy.

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          Economy exists not because we believe it does, but because we agreed to follow particular rules, many of which are enforced by state. It is emergent phenomenon. But it does not make it any less real than any other emergent phenomenon, like air pressure.

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    We used to worship the sun in Europe too. But Christians decided they wanted to test that resolve, when they were helping pagans simulate the conditions of the sun by setting them on fire.

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    The idea that Native Americans were uncivilized is propaganda. They had civilizations as advances and connected as any European civilization. I would have loved to see how America operated as an integrated food system before western Contact.