It is my understanding that class conflict is seen as the primary contradiction at least in this epoch of history. My question is, what are the new contradictions that formed under socialism thus far and what would be the theorized contradictions under communism? What was the primary contradiction during primitive communism? Or perhaps my questions show a fundamental misunderstanding, which if so I would like corrected. Thank you!

  • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    No idea. Not even Marx tried to answer that.

    If i had to guess, i would say that unless something more surfaces in the meantime, most likely the chief contraditions would be the contradiction between human development and natural world (also rebuilding of nature after capitalist onslaught will need centuries of attention), the contradiction between freedoms and not allowing reationary ideas to resurface, and last but not least contradiction between materialism and the idealist hydra.

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      You also hit on the answer for primitive communism. It’s less about the clash between groups of people, and more about the clash between people and nature: food scarcity, predators, natural disasters, disease.

      As for future communism, it could be like star trek, where most contradictions are internally solved, and we seek out new civilizations only to exchange art, culture, and experiences, make new friends, etc.

  • Camarada Forte
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    There’s no right answer to this, only the concrete conditions of each people in each epoch can tell. For instance, the main contradictions of the Soviet Union in 1922 were quite different from the main contradictions of the Soviet Union in 1953, yet you can argue they were both socialism if your understanding of socialism means the dictatorship of the proletariat.

    Even if the Soviet Union abolished (for some time) the existence of exploitative classes after the collectivization of their rural economy, they still had a class contradiction between the imperialist class of the worldwide economy. Class contradictions would only cease after a worldwide victory of socialism over capitalism.

    So, taking into consideration that this is a guessing game, like @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml said, and that each people will face different contradictions based on their historical development, I would say the main contradiction after a worldwide victory of socialism would probably to reduce the impact of climate change and research methods to revert them if possible. In fact, I would argue that the changing climate conditions are a major contradiction of our times right now, of course, subordinate to the class contradiction.

    Under communism? No point in delving over something that far from now, we can’t tell what things will be like in a hundred years. The main focus of study of communists is not “communism,” but the current historical conditions of our times.

    • The main focus of study of communists is not “communism,” but the current historical conditions of our times.

      And this completely pisses off and desorient all manners of liberals and utopian socialists, who rather would fantasize about their ideal world without sudying the current one. And of course anarchists who don’t study neither.

  • @redtea@lemmygrad.ml
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    91 year ago

    This is the right question. Not sure if I can answer it!

    It’s almost impossible to know the primary contraindications of a socialist world, and even harder for a communist world. In socialist states, like Cuba, China, Vietnam, etc, the primary contradiction may still be class or imperialism.

    Afterwards? We might need to look at essential production and energy. Even if there was a revolution tomorrow, it’ll take some time to increase energy output throughout the global south to raise the standard of living while staving off climate change. For food, it’ll be hard to produce enough without fertilizer, but fertilizer causes loads of problems and uses gas. There will always be a contradiction between increasing production and finite resources. As for social contradictions, I wouldn’t like to guess.

    Does this help or do you think I’m wildly off the mark?

  • @freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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    51 year ago

    I too am interested in this question. As someone who hasn’t studied the academic work on this topic, I can only venture initial hypotheses based on my understanding of dialectics and the world. I imagine there are many contradictions that we can find today that exist and have not yet been solved by anyone.

    One that’s on my mind is the production-consumption-waste contraduction: production produces waste, consumption produces waste, waste inhibits production, waste inhibits consumption, waste increases demand for production, waste increases demand for consumption.