• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    1 year ago

    I’m starting to think this was the goal of Hamas the entire time. They never expected to win against Israel, but they knew they could provoke the sort of over response that would get the world to react to their war crimes.

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      1 year ago

      The world reacts all the time. I remember at least 2014 in my country everyone praying for Gaza. The west is always slow to react to the genocide they create.

      Venezuela has always spoken badly of Israel since they did a genocide and help far right genocidal rulers in south America. The world knows that Israel and the US have colonialist foreign policy no matter the party in charge.

      Even Bernie Sanders hasn’t condemned Israel.

      The US and Israel have been, are and will be morally wrong in the eyes of the world for centuries to come.

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        I just want to point out that Bernie Sanders did condemn them for their actions. While he admits that they have a right to defend themselves (which is fair) they absolutely do not have the right to outright slaughter innocent people amounting to a genocide. Which is what they are doing.

        That being said I agree with everything else you said.

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                The headline is very misleading.

                Mr Sanders said what’s needed now is a two-state solution to the crisis and for “the world to come together to give hope to the Palestinans.”

                He also said in another statement that the most important task now is to stop the bombings.

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                  Yes, his first statement was that Israel had the right to defend itself. That was all he said, then the backlash came and he came out with another statement.

                  To me, that says a lot. It was a big disappointment personally.

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            Wake me when hamas releases the hostages instead of just doubling down on saying we’ll invade again and kill more civilians.

            The diplomatic solution requires both sides to lay down their arms and stop attacking each other

            • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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              Well, Israel certainly schooled Hamas on senseless murder of Innocents. What is it now, 7 times as many (or 14 times, adjusted for population ratio) ?

              “An eye for an eye” was a few thousand ago.

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          1 year ago

          Still didn’t call for peace. Which is a HUGE disappointment

        • keardap@lemmy.selfhost.quest
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          Israel can’t defend itself without killing innocent people. Hamas is launching rockets from civilian infrastructure. Building such as hospitals, schools, kindergarten, etc, are all used to hide rocket launchers and shafts into a network of tunnels that Hamas opperates from.

          They can’t just send foot soldiers in to dismantle everything. Hamas set up traps, so they use air strikes to create safe passage and then go in by foot.

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      1 year ago

      Yes hamas intentionally tries to create situations where Israel either kills civilians or does nothing.

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      I mean… It’s not like Israel is the most advanced military in the Middle East and has access to the most advanced military technologies in the world through the United States, right?

      I’m sure they had no choice but to drop thousand pound bombs on residential complexes and hospitals and schools. Precision strikes? Impossible.

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      Hamas’s war crimes are definitely getting a mild reaction from the world this time. Just a reminder that based on the Geneva Conventions it’s not actually a war crime to target hospitals or civilians being used to shield military targets. It’s only a war crime to use them in such manner.