Russia was never against Ukraine having relations with the west, not sure why you think that was relevant. Implementation of Minsk agreements was the core part of the platform because autonomy of Donbas was what the civil war since 2014 was all about.
Well you said their party platform was about normalizing relations with Russia and implementing the Minsk agreements and I couldn’t find anything about that other than maybe restoring the territorial integrity and state sovereignty of Ukraine might include that since Zelensky talked about holding fair and free elections there.
The pictures posted before my replied gave the impression that you had two sides with one wanting to close ties with the EU and one with Russia. Since they were old elections from 2004 and 2010 the one from 2019 gives a much more different picture, telling us that the party with a platform of relaunching their relations with their western neighbours and implementing the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement and expand cooperation with the EU and NATO had a broad support over the country, not dividing it in two halves.
So that’s why I included that if that’s what you mean. Otherwise I don’t quite follow what you’re asking.
What you keep admitting here is that you have absolutely no idea regarding the subject you’re attempting to debate. Not sure why you felt the need to provide opinions on a topic you’re utterly ignorant of.
I think I made a pretty good point?
There’s pictures of old elections showing a divided Ukraine chosing between Russia and Europe.
I provided pictures of a more recent election showing a broad support, bridging that divide, for a pro-EU party with a presidential election with the same result.
I don’t see any point since it’s obvious this isn’t a constructive discussion. If you’re genuinely interested then go read up on the history of Ukrainian politics since the Maidan coup and why Zelensky was elected. This information is publicly available.
Russia was never against Ukraine having relations with the west, not sure why you think that was relevant. Implementation of Minsk agreements was the core part of the platform because autonomy of Donbas was what the civil war since 2014 was all about.
Where did I state that Russia had something against Ukraines relations with the west?
Perhaps you should elaborate on why you thought relaunching relations with their western neighbours was relevant here.
Well you said their party platform was about normalizing relations with Russia and implementing the Minsk agreements and I couldn’t find anything about that other than maybe restoring the territorial integrity and state sovereignty of Ukraine might include that since Zelensky talked about holding fair and free elections there.
The pictures posted before my replied gave the impression that you had two sides with one wanting to close ties with the EU and one with Russia. Since they were old elections from 2004 and 2010 the one from 2019 gives a much more different picture, telling us that the party with a platform of relaunching their relations with their western neighbours and implementing the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement and expand cooperation with the EU and NATO had a broad support over the country, not dividing it in two halves. So that’s why I included that if that’s what you mean. Otherwise I don’t quite follow what you’re asking.
What you keep admitting here is that you have absolutely no idea regarding the subject you’re attempting to debate. Not sure why you felt the need to provide opinions on a topic you’re utterly ignorant of.
Sorry, what?
I think I made a pretty good point? There’s pictures of old elections showing a divided Ukraine chosing between Russia and Europe. I provided pictures of a more recent election showing a broad support, bridging that divide, for a pro-EU party with a presidential election with the same result.
What did I get wrong?
This all has been explained to you repeatedly in this very thread.
Well I reread the thread and no, it’s unclear. Could you please specify?
I don’t see any point since it’s obvious this isn’t a constructive discussion. If you’re genuinely interested then go read up on the history of Ukrainian politics since the Maidan coup and why Zelensky was elected. This information is publicly available.
@yogthos @Flavourful Guys; we are here for the memes not political debate.