Helt vansinnigt men inte förvånande. Här på hemmaplan har regeringen redan presenterat integritetsvidriga förslag.

It’s insane how the US plainly ignores trains, and even busses, in favour for cars.

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Yes, it’s voted for by the parliament, which EU citizens vote for. Representative democracy. And can absolutely be held responsible by the people. The EU parliament can dissolve the comission if wanted.

Well for those 600 years they were Swedes. So I guess? Anyway, so Sweden could potentially claim the parts with a Swedish majority at least?

Haha yes, and Russia penalizes not participating.

Have you heard of the EU parliament? The one that EU citizen vote for?

The banks had the western countries force Ukraine to oust their leader who shot protestors which were angry over said leader who made a 180° turn towards Russia?

They’re imperialist though. Putin is raging about restoring the old Soviet bloc and these states not having a justification for existing outside Russia. And then invading another sovereign country with that excuse can’t get more imperialist.

And Finland belonged to Sweden for 600 years before Russia took it. Are Sweden allowed to invade and annex Finland? Of course not. And great voting lol. Vote yes or risk being shot.

Russia could just pack their shit and leave Ukraine. Solved.

Probably financial aid to keep the state functioning. Paying out pensions, wages for the government workers, keeping hospitals running, buying food and arms for the army and such. The regular costs to keep a country going. Last numbers I saw Ukraines economy shrank by 20% after a year since Russias invasion. Most of the aid from the EU is financial and not arms.

Isn’t it fairly cheap for the specs it have?

Neat! There’s also Fairphone if you want a phone with changeable parts.

The result of Russias imperialist action. Last Hitler, now Putin. Hopefully Ukraine will manage to drive the invaders from their territory and that all nations respect international law…

You don’t have to know every partys platform to have a grasp about the politics lol. No, you made statements which I adequately replied to.

Well, thanks for the last word then I suppose.

Oh I have a pretty okay understanding about Ukranian politics since Euromaidan and the start of the war. I also think that I have a good grasp on why Zelensky was so popular. I suppose you believe yourself to have an equivalent grasp of it?

Since you won’t point out any faults in my comments, I’ll take it as there are none?

Well I reread the thread and no, it’s unclear. Could you please specify?

Sorry, what?

I think I made a pretty good point? There’s pictures of old elections showing a divided Ukraine chosing between Russia and Europe. I provided pictures of a more recent election showing a broad support, bridging that divide, for a pro-EU party with a presidential election with the same result.

What did I get wrong?

Ditto! :)

Well you said their party platform was about normalizing relations with Russia and implementing the Minsk agreements and I couldn’t find anything about that other than maybe restoring the territorial integrity and state sovereignty of Ukraine might include that since Zelensky talked about holding fair and free elections there.

The pictures posted before my replied gave the impression that you had two sides with one wanting to close ties with the EU and one with Russia. Since they were old elections from 2004 and 2010 the one from 2019 gives a much more different picture, telling us that the party with a platform of relaunching their relations with their western neighbours and implementing the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement and expand cooperation with the EU and NATO had a broad support over the country, not dividing it in two halves. So that’s why I included that if that’s what you mean. Otherwise I don’t quite follow what you’re asking.