What do you all think of the Red Hat drama a few months ago? I just learned about it and looked into it a bit. I’ve been using Fedora for a while now on my main system, but curious whether you think this will end up affecting it.

My take is that yes, it’s kinda a shitty move to do but I get why RH decided to stop their maintenance given they’re a for profit company.

What do you guys think? Do you still use or would you consider using Fedora?

  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
    3·
    1 year ago

    It doesn’t ship with opt out telemetry. You have to explicitly opt in.

    They were considering changing the telemetry to opt out for Fedora 40.

    And the telemetry is anonymous, the method of collection is open sourced, and has been independently verified to not contain personally identifiable information. The proposal was never for telemetry in the way that Google or Microsoft does it.

    Multiple other distros already have a similar system in place and nobody bats an eyelid.

    • hottari
      1·
      1 year ago

      Opt-out telemetry has never been the standard for Linux distros.

      If we have to bash Ubuntu for telemetry, we have to bash Fedora with the same stick.

      I’m not saying you shouldn’t use Fedora. I’m saying I wouldn’t.

      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 year ago

        Opt out telemetry is already used by some.

        Ok, if you get offended by opt-out telemetry that’s completely anonymous, transparent, and only helps developers, then that’s fine. Don’t use it. Or opt out.

        • hottari
          12·
          1 year ago

          No amount of gaslighting by you or excusing telemetry for good reason will change my opinion on opt-out telemetry.

          • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
            2·
            1 year ago

            I don’t think you know what gaslighting means.

            But ok, I’m not trying to change your mind lol - I said don’t use it

            • hottari
              12·
              1 year ago

              Maybe you should look up the definition of the word and come back to your previous comments.

              • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
                2·
                1 year ago

                Gaslighting, also called coercive control, refers to extreme psychological manipulation to commit an individual to a psychiatric institution or cause mental illness with the intent to brainwash.

                Yeah. That’s totally what I’m doing when I remind you that telemetry exists in multiple distros and I explained that the telemetry Fedora was considering adding has been independently confirmed as not having any personally identifiable information.

                • hottari
                  13·
                  1 year ago

                  It’s okay dude. You got to learn a new vocabulary today.

                  Use whatever distro looks shinier to your eyes.

                  I’m never ever going to use a distro that forces telemetry on its unsuspecting users.

                  Let it rest.

                  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    I didn’t, you did. You’re the one who didn’t know what gaslighting is lol

                    And it doesn’t force it

                    Stop spreading misinformation lmao