I have looked a Qtox and Briar but I am unsure which one is more private or if there are even more private messengers

  • @zksmk
    6•3 years ago

    Define best.

    Briar, peer to peer, through Tor, ISP can’t see meta data, no company owned central servers that can see meta data, eats battery like crazy, only on phone, professional development, no need for phone number.

    Tox, peer to peer, no Tor, ISP can see meta data, no company owned central servers that can see meta data, eats battery like crazy, has a desktop client, there were issues with encryption in the past, no need for phone number.

    Jami, peer to peer, no Tor, ISP can see meta data, partially centralized helper servers that can see meta data, eats battery like crazy except when helper servers used, all platforms, no need for phone number.

    Signal, central servers, American, non-profit, needs phone number, issues with open source.

    Wire, central servers, Swiss, backed by American venture capital, doesn’t need phone number.

    Element(Matrix), federated servers, they see meta data, doesn’t need phone number.

    Conversations(XMPP), federated servers, they see meta data, doesn’t need phone number.

    https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/riLmLMwlQg.png

    https://privacytools.io/software/real-time-communication/

    Peer to peer gives the most privacy of data but eats your battery and can be buggy. If you just dislike surveillance capitalism and your messages getting snooped on for profit and ulterior manipulation, the centralized and federated servers options are just fine. Peer to peer might be overkill unless you’re a whistleblower or journalist or whatever.

    There’s no one size fits all best.

          • Sandro LinuxOPM
            1•3 years ago

            Yeah on those fronts Session is worse I know but I am saying UI wise Session looks sleek

    • @ajz
      2•2 years ago

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    • Sandro LinuxOPM
      1•3 years ago

      Yeah, I think Briar might be best for privacy because it is routed through tor and does not leak metadata

  • Sagar Acharya
    4•3 years ago

    Tox is reliable and stable today. Briar is not. Both are peer to peer encrypted with strong encryption.

    I recommend tox

    • Sandro LinuxOPM
      2•3 years ago

      Tox is reliable and stable today. Briar is not. Both are peer to peer encrypted with strong encryption.

      Ok thanks I think I might use Tox for now but also have Briar installed just in case it has some more updates

    • Sandro LinuxOPM
      1•3 years ago

      But Tox does not use Tor does it?

  • Sagar Acharya
    3•3 years ago

    It uses the default system network. You can use torsocks to torify or perhaps torify your complete network by default.

    Sure, try both of them. I have experienced issues with receiving briar messages. I didn’t receive any when they were sent from other end.

  • @TheAnonymouseJoker
    2•3 years ago

    Any messenger that is open source, decentralised and you can route through darknets is anonymous.

    Security comes from encryption, either OMEMO or PGP are gold standards.

    Privacy comes from a care of (or lack of care of) stylometry, your OPSEC and what you choose to share over the internet program.

    Edit: i wonder who the hell can downvote this non political, non controversial comment devoid of discussing any entity or person, I really got some haters huh

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