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    Ambulances and private cars rushed some 350 casualties from the al-Ahli blast to Gaza City’s main hospital, al-Shifa, already overwhelmed with wounded from other strikes, said its director, Mohammed Abu Selmia. The wounded were laid onto bloody floors, screaming in pain.

    “We are squeezing five beds into a single tiny room. We need equipment, we need medicine, we need beds, we need anesthesia, we need everything,” Abu Selmia said, warning that the fuel supply for the hospital’s generators will run out Wednesday. “I think Gaza’s medical sector will collapse within hours.”

    This is heart wrenching and sickening.

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    Assuming Israel is responsible, they have a lot of nerve calling anyone else a terrorist.

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      The IDF claims this was caused by a mid-fire of Hamas rockets. Both sides have provided the exact same amount of evidence, zero. Maybe wait before hoping back on the anti-Israel bandwagon.

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        Yes, that is exactly what was implied by the first four words of my comment. Maybe learn to read before jumping on the pro-Israel bandwagon.

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        Why are you pasting this exact same comment on any threads where the Israeli narrative is questioned? I’m trying to figure out if you’re part of a Mossad information op, or just a naive Fox News viewer.

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        Unfortunately, USInt seems to have arrived at the conclusion that nobody was right.

        Israel didn’t do it, but neither did Hamas. It would seem that the bombing was carried out by an entirely different militia of Jihadi Palestinians, which if true could indicate that these were Boko Haram types that blew the thing because modern medical science is “too western”

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          God yeah sure bro it’s just a different group of islamist terrorists look I know Israel is blitzing social media with lies but can you take that money and at least come up with something a little more believable? Like if you’re going to treat us all to genocide propaganda do a better job

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            Do you think Hamas are the only Mujahedeen operating out of Palestine?

            Bro Hamas isn’t even that popular with islamists because they’re shia and work so much with other shia.

            That’s like the entire reason they go so nuts trying to look tough all the time, because all the Sunni Mujahedeen are also active and waiting for the chance to overtake them.

            Groups like the Lion Den are only disregarded because they don’t have the faux-legitimacy of state Hamas does, even though they actually perform better against Israeli police and military in skirmishes.

            It’s always the fuckin’ Bougeyeviks with these “I don’ know shit about the people I’m fetishizin’” takes.

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              Okay you all told me that this was a hamas rocket misfire and when people pointed out the damage is inconsistent with Hamas weapons now it’s the lion den that has infiltrated Gaza, brought over better munitions then misfired those munitions into a hospital that Israel has repeatedly threatened (and they lied about previously targeting hospitals) and I’m the naive one?

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      Nation states commit acts of war not acts of terror. If you think about it any act you would call terrorism would also be causus belli.

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        Any violence knowingly committed against civilians by a nation state should be considered an act of terrorism.

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          That is also an act of war. National militaries don’t commit acts of terrorism. They commit crimes against humanity, war crimes, or the justification of war aka causus belli.

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            You missed the key word there which was should be.

            Attacking a hospital is outright terrorism imo and has no place in war. Attack a supply depot or some other strategic point but a fucking hospital? A place dedicated to treating any human being regardless of politics, status, etc. blown up.

            Dogs. The lot of them. May the toll of the war bell ring loudest and the longest among them and each of their supporters.

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              No I didn’t miss it. These words mean things already. Terrorism is something non-state entities engage in. When nations do it they are called acts of war.

              If a bunch of American burn down a bar in Canada that would be terrorism. If the US army did the same thing it would be a legal justification for Canada to declare war. That’s because militaries are acting on behalf of the country while random citizens are not.

              There’s no reason for this to change unless you hold to the idea that somehow terrorism is worse than acts of war or war crimes which is pretty childish and ignorant.

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                Okay so you’re arguing pedantics. Let’s do it.

                Can you find any official global sources that define terrorism vs an act of war?

                I couldn’t but I only checked for a short while.

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                  What does arguing pedantics mean? Note pedantics isn’t a word.

                  Yes the UN codes regarding war crimes.

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    The sheer gall to bomb a hospital. Fucking sick. I’ll be calling all my representatives tonight to ask them if they really want to continue to enable these war criminals with military aid. The inhumanity is exhausting

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      They know they fucked up. That’s why they’re spreading FUD about it being a Hamas rocket or a Hamas HQ or whatever.

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        If Hamas had rockets of this explosive power, they would be launching them at Israel every day.

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          So the iron dome can make bigger explosions in the sky?

          Fuck netanyahoo the war criminal but it’s wild how sure you are that this is how it works lmao. The iron dome hits those rockets with rockets. A bigger ordinance is still gonna go boom when that happens.

          Do you have any clue as to what you’re talking about??

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      The IDF claims this was caused by a mid-fire of Hamas rockets. Both sides have provided the exact same amount of evidence, zero. Maybe wait before hoping back on the anti-Israel bandwagon.

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        except Israel has already run exactly this playbook in 2014, and yes, they did bomb a hospital.

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        That is one sides claim, the other side claims the opposite. We do not know facts yet and its not helpful to pretend we do.

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          If we don’t believe the IDF, then maybe we shouldn’t believe Hamas either. Yet this is the 5th post I see claiming Israel bombed the hospital (which is just the statement of Hamas, a terrorist org killing civilians on both sides), with hundreds of upvotes and enraged comments.

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          you seriously think palestinian islamic jihad is more trust worthy than IDF?

          and do you realistically think they will release statemaking them look bad?

          surely hamas has claimed responsibility for taking creddit for bombing their own hospitals in the past and NOT blamed it on israelis right?

          this instance is biased as fuck.

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            You seriously think the Palestinians have rockets that can single-handedly destroy hospitals, killing hundreds of people? Can you link me to a single other instance of a rocket doing similar amounts of damage?

            No, you can’t. Because this is much more consistent with the damage caused by modern munitions manufactured by the US and provided to Israel.

            You are biased as fuck.

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            Israel isn’t known to be honest either. Just look at the killing Shireen Abu Akleh.

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            It’s not biased to say “facts are good”. I don’t think anything, I don’t believe anything. I wait for facts and try not to disseminate misinformation. How about you?

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            Imagine thinking the IDF is trustworthy at all.

            You think Israel will say “Yeah, we bombed the hospital and killed hundreds of people”?

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    Story has been updated:

    KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip (AP) — The Israeli military says it had no involvement in an explosion that killed hundreds of people at a Gaza City hospital and that the blast was caused by a misfired Palestinian rocket.

    The Hamas-run Health Ministry in Gaza says an Israeli airstrike caused the blast, and that it killed some 500 people, many of whom had sought shelter from an ongoing Israeli offensive.

    The Israeli military, however, said Palestinian militants had fired a barrage of rockets near the hospital at the time.

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      The Guardian mentioned that this much damage with one rocket would likely go above the usual capabilities of Hamas.

      Not saying that it couldn’t be that, but certainly something to consider.

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        Wasn’t fired from Hamas, problem solved

        There is more than two players here

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      On the one hand, bombing a hospital is pretty brazen even for Israel, especially as your most important ally is en route for a visit, and the explanation of a Hamas rocket going astray does seem plausible. On the other hand, I’m not inclined to trust the word of a country that has proudly cut off food and water for 2.2 million people for over a week now. You don’t get the benefit of the doubt when your actively committing war crimes. Also it may not have been intentional, a IDF pilot could have just missed a target or gone rogue. I’m sure no UN inspectors will ever be let in to examine the scene to make a determination, so we’ll probably never know the truth. It probably doesn’t matter much, the dead are dead either way, the grieving families will grieve either way, and all sides of the conflict will believe what they want to further their political ends, including Hezbollah using potentially using this as a justification for a broader conflict. It’s just tragedy on top of tragedy.

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        Israel bombed a Palestinian hospital in 2014, what was their initial response?

        The Israeli military denied initial reports that its forces were responsible for the strikes, saying instead that the bombing was the result of rockets misfired by Palestinian militants — while Hamas cast blame back at Israel.

        Sound familiar?

        Shocker, it came out that they did in fact bomb the hospital and killed children. Israel will always blame Palestine for its mistakes.

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        It is not plausible it is a Hamas rocket.

        Only modern munitions have the power to destroy hospitals and kill hundreds of people.

        If Hamas had such rockets, they would be launching them at Israel every day.

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    All aid, except medical help for their own injured, to israel should be stopped in return to the hospital strike. But it wont happen because the US likes to strike hospitals as well.

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      I’d like to see you prove it was an Israeli strike first. Fuck netanyahoo the war criminal but it’s wild how sure everyone is based on fuck all

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Photos purportedly from al-Ahli Hospital shared widely on social video showed fire engulfing the building, widespread damage and bodies scattered in the wreckage.

    Hamas, which sparked the latest war with an attack last week that killed more than 1,400 Israelis, called Tuesday’s hospital strike “a horrific massacre.” It said in a statement that most of the casualties were displaced families, patients, children and women.

    With Israel barring entry of water, fuel and food into Gaza since Hamas’ brutal attack last week, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken secured an agreement with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss creation of a mechanism for delivering aid to the territory’s 2.3 million people.

    “The return of the hostages, which is sacred in our eyes, is a key component in any humanitarian efforts,” he told reporters, without elaborating whether Israel was demanding the release of all of the roughly 200 people Hamas abducted before allowing supplies in.

    A barrage of strikes crashed into the Bureij refugee camp in central Gaza, leveling an entire block of homes and causing dozens of casualties among families inside, residents said.

    Associated Press journalists Amy Teibel in Jerusalem; Abby Sewell in Beirut; Samy Magdy and Jack Jeffrey in Cairo; and Ashraf Sweilam in el-Arish, Egypt contributed to this report.


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