• blunderworld@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Assuming Israel is responsible, they have a lot of nerve calling anyone else a terrorist.

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      The IDF claims this was caused by a mid-fire of Hamas rockets. Both sides have provided the exact same amount of evidence, zero. Maybe wait before hoping back on the anti-Israel bandwagon.

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        Yes, that is exactly what was implied by the first four words of my comment. Maybe learn to read before jumping on the pro-Israel bandwagon.

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        Why are you pasting this exact same comment on any threads where the Israeli narrative is questioned? I’m trying to figure out if you’re part of a Mossad information op, or just a naive Fox News viewer.

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        Unfortunately, USInt seems to have arrived at the conclusion that nobody was right.

        Israel didn’t do it, but neither did Hamas. It would seem that the bombing was carried out by an entirely different militia of Jihadi Palestinians, which if true could indicate that these were Boko Haram types that blew the thing because modern medical science is “too western”

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          God yeah sure bro it’s just a different group of islamist terrorists look I know Israel is blitzing social media with lies but can you take that money and at least come up with something a little more believable? Like if you’re going to treat us all to genocide propaganda do a better job

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            Do you think Hamas are the only Mujahedeen operating out of Palestine?

            Bro Hamas isn’t even that popular with islamists because they’re shia and work so much with other shia.

            That’s like the entire reason they go so nuts trying to look tough all the time, because all the Sunni Mujahedeen are also active and waiting for the chance to overtake them.

            Groups like the Lion Den are only disregarded because they don’t have the faux-legitimacy of state Hamas does, even though they actually perform better against Israeli police and military in skirmishes.

            It’s always the fuckin’ Bougeyeviks with these “I don’ know shit about the people I’m fetishizin’” takes.

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              Okay you all told me that this was a hamas rocket misfire and when people pointed out the damage is inconsistent with Hamas weapons now it’s the lion den that has infiltrated Gaza, brought over better munitions then misfired those munitions into a hospital that Israel has repeatedly threatened (and they lied about previously targeting hospitals) and I’m the naive one?

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      Nation states commit acts of war not acts of terror. If you think about it any act you would call terrorism would also be causus belli.

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        Any violence knowingly committed against civilians by a nation state should be considered an act of terrorism.

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          That is also an act of war. National militaries don’t commit acts of terrorism. They commit crimes against humanity, war crimes, or the justification of war aka causus belli.

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            You missed the key word there which was should be.

            Attacking a hospital is outright terrorism imo and has no place in war. Attack a supply depot or some other strategic point but a fucking hospital? A place dedicated to treating any human being regardless of politics, status, etc. blown up.

            Dogs. The lot of them. May the toll of the war bell ring loudest and the longest among them and each of their supporters.

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              No I didn’t miss it. These words mean things already. Terrorism is something non-state entities engage in. When nations do it they are called acts of war.

              If a bunch of American burn down a bar in Canada that would be terrorism. If the US army did the same thing it would be a legal justification for Canada to declare war. That’s because militaries are acting on behalf of the country while random citizens are not.

              There’s no reason for this to change unless you hold to the idea that somehow terrorism is worse than acts of war or war crimes which is pretty childish and ignorant.

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                Okay so you’re arguing pedantics. Let’s do it.

                Can you find any official global sources that define terrorism vs an act of war?

                I couldn’t but I only checked for a short while.

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                  What does arguing pedantics mean? Note pedantics isn’t a word.

                  Yes the UN codes regarding war crimes.

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                    Arguing pedantics = conversational way of saying that you are being pedantic.

                    Define terrorism not war crimes, obviously. Nobody was arguing for the definition of war crimes, and just because something isn’t a formal war crime, doesn’t mean it’s not something else (which would possibly include but not limit to only terrorism)

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                    You know what they meant.

                    You are still being pedantic arguing about semantics.

                    If you have to obscure your animus behind a veil of linguistics then you don’t actually have one.

                    Is that a big enough vocab for you

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                    A terrorist is someone who uses terror to enact change.

                    By all rights we were terrorists when we went into iraq and Afghanistan.

                    We went in and used fear and terror of us reaction to change things