• nieceandtows@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Is that why they beheaded babies, paraded naked women before/after raping/killing them, targeted civilian congregations and killed them without warning? Wait.

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      9 months ago

      The Hamas attacks were barbaric and horrific. Israel giving 1 million+ people 24 hours to leave or risk being destroyed in a bombing campaign while cutting off access to food, water, and fuel is barbaric and horrific. There is such thing as nuance, but it doesn’t take very much critical thinking to recognize that both Israel and Hamas are commiting atrocities.

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        9 months ago

        It serves Israel for Hamas to exist. Everything Hamas does leads to the death of Palestinians more than Israelis.

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          And everything they don’t do changes nothing, they’re slowly dying and have been for a while now. Their public image changed nothing, and it wasn’t about to.

        • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          9 months ago

          So, why does Palestine still house and hold a high opinion over Hamas? A terrorist group just lives over there in Gaza Strip and Palestine doesn’t lift a finger to get rid of them.

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            Why did Israeli police do nothing to stop the increasing violence perpetrated by illegal Israeli Settlers attacking Palestinians, of which Palestinian police are forbidden to react to? Their cops aren’t allowed to do anything, their illegal occupants cops won’t do anything, and the majority of Israeli Jews say they dont want Palestinians to have the right to vote if they annex Gaza. A minority of Israelis support a two state solution.

            It’s not like Israel has been trying to play ball with them.

          • Annoyed_🦀 🏅@monyet.cc
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            9 months ago

            To you, me, and many of us, they’re a terrorist group, but to those who get stepped on by the Zionist for decades, who have their home bombed, who land got stolen, who families and relatives got killed, they are their only hope.

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              9 months ago

              To you, me, and many of us, they’re a terrorist group

              To all of the groups that matter, they are a terrorist group.

              but to those who get stepped on by the Zionist for decades, who have their home bombed, who land got stolen, who families and relatives got killed, they are their only hope.

              Then they aren’t living as a government that deserves statehood. If a terrorist group is the one leading the country, that becomes the definition of that country.

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                To all of the groups that matter, they are a terrorist group.

                good way to say “they deserved to be wiped out, innocent or not”, which isn’t something shocking coming from war criminal apologist.

                If a terrorist group is the one leading the country, that becomes the definition of that country.

                Just like War mongering state of America and War Criminal state of Israel?

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            9 months ago

            Why are there still Kahanites in Israel’s government?

            Also, get rid of Hamas with what. Are you going to give them weapons to do it?

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        9 months ago

        I don’t know if you noticed but it’s been more than 24 hours since they said that and they’re still letting them evacuate. Time to retire that talking point.

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          9 months ago

          Sure. Except “letting them evacuate” in this case is better characterized as “continuing to expel them from their homes under threat of violence.” I’m not arguing the 24 hour time period is the atrocity, I’m arguing the act of creating a humanitarian crisis under the auspices of a military campaign effort is abhorrent.

          It’s not like we don’t have any good reporting on the matter either. The BBC for example has already been attacked because they refused to declare Hamas as terrorists (a label I agree with, for the record). [This article](BBC News - Khan Younis: A Gaza city on its knees, now with a million mouths to feed
          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67116403) provides some insight into the absolute horror regular Palestinians are going through right now.

      • Tygr@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        When Israel declared war, what do you think that meant exactly?

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      Two wrongs don’t make a right. Both sides have done wrong. Isreal has attacked ambulances unprovoked. Hamas attacked Isreal at a music fest. Isreal retaliated by attacking schools and hospitals (aka, people that had nothing to do with said attack) Isreal has been subjugating Gaza to sub-human conditions for 20+ years. The attack on the music fest isn’t justified but it is understandable.

      Again. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

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      9 months ago

      Is that suitable justification of a genocide? That some people of a ethnic group committed heinous terrorist acts? How many people individuals can condemn an entire race of people? 1, 5, 2000, 10,000?

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        9 months ago

        That’s not what was confirmed. Not all of the 40 murdered babies (from one village) were beheaded. At least one was.

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      Woah if you didn’t include the two item, one cannot and refused to be confirmed to the point that White House have to issue a statement saying they just “heard” from the Israel Authority, and one you’re so undecided which is which, i’d thought you’re talking about Israel.