I’m “debating” a Liberal who thinks “Marx had some valid critiques of capitalism” and “the US has done some bad things” but isn’t great on AES. I sent them the recent post showing that China doesn’t block western media, and they said that it only shows one computer and smart people can get around blocked stuff, and I explained what it actually shows before they said “China is still more authoritarian than the US and my personal freedoms aren’t stopped by my government” (note: all of these are paraphrases, but I don’t think I’ve strawmanned anything). So, what are some solid examples of the average citizens in socialist countries having more “freedom” than in capitalist countries? Edit: Thanks for all the great responses!

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    2 years ago

    having healthy grandparents, a full fridge, a good university education, rights on the job, your own home, no loans to pay off, and a safe, clean, and lively neighbourhood beats the ability to behave inconsiderately for dubious personal gain at least 95% of the time.

    I might get this tattooed on my forehead. It’s a bit long for my knuckles, but it would be nicely underlined by my eyebrows.