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“It should not be hard to shut down hatred and antisemitism where we see it. That is a core tenet of solidarity,” Ocasio-Cortez said.
The New York City chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America is facing a political firestorm after the organization promoted a pro-Palestine rally in the wake of Hamas militants’ attacks on Israeli communities.
The group did not organize Sunday’s rally, its leadership said Monday. But several lawmakers with DSA ties are distancing themselves from what was said at the event.
“It should not be hard to shut down hatred and antisemitism where we see it. That is a core tenet of solidarity,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y) and one of six DSA members in Congress, said in a statement late Monday — her first comments on the rally.
“The bigotry and callousness expressed in Times Square on Sunday were unacceptable and harmful in this devastating moment. It also did not speak for the thousands of New Yorkers who are capable of rejecting both Hamas’ horrifying attacks against innocent civilians as well as the grave injustices and violence Palestinians face under occupation,” she said.
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Whenever there’s an anti Israel protest, you can guarantee it will devolve into anti Semitism. For some reason you can speak about Palestinians without thinking about their ethnicity and religion but if you bring up Israel the Jew hate jumps out. My wife is Canadian Jewish and has no interest in Israel or politics, but she still gets shit on about Israel, as if every Jewish person on earth is Israeli.
You have to seperate the racism and bigotry from the call to end occupation or nobody will ever listen to you.
I agree, but you have to remember that the Israeli state wants it this way. They want the world to conflate Jewish and Israeli in order to hide their own fascism. And they will drag every Jewish person to their pit if allowed to. Just like Hamas wants to tangle every Muslim into their warped worldview with their holy war bullshit excuse for violence.
Reminds me about how frequently criticisms about the Chinese government used to be met with accusations of racism. As if genetics and government are at all the same thing.
Well, I read a lot of people’s opinions on why China needs to get nuked since they are lesser humans on mainstream reddit subs, it is not like there is a lot of racism and general hate against China and its citizens on the internet.
Which mainstream reddit subs are these? I used to read r/all but never saw anything like this
It doesn’t help that the pro-Israel factions accuses anyone criticizing Israel an anti-semite, even other Semitic people.
It seems that Jews are the only people that can criticize Israel without being called anti-semite. They get the self-hating Jew label instead.
No. Jews who come out against these actions are “self hating”. You can’t win.
Serious questions: Semites are Northern African and ??? Wikipedia was less than helpful, including the embedded link about ancient Semites https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
Semites are a large group of ethnicities that came about thousands of years ago and still exist today. Two of the largest groups are Arabs and Hebrews.
Yeah, was thinking Palestinians are Semites too. Thanks.
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What anti-Semitic things were said at this particular rally? Do you know? Maybe I missed something, but the article seems rather sparse on details.
Did this devolve into antisemitism?
This is shit-tier journalism. Who said something antisemitic and what specifically did they say? Without that information this is merely propaganda.
Politico is owned by Axel Springer SE who also own the Bild, a german tabloid that regularly spreads hate about minorities and anything left of center right. Axel Springer also got funded by the CIA in exchange for promoting a pro american mindset.
Not disagreeing but citations would be nice.
Most of my sources would be in german but most of what I said is mentioned in the wikipedia article and its sources.
Who said I didn’t speak German?
Thanks for the info!
Article has no examples of anti-semitism allegedly at the rally. Criticizing Israel is no more racist than criticizing China for their uyghur genocide
This reminds me of the accusations of antisemitism that Jeremy Corbyn attracted during the last election in the UK. I kept asking for evidence of his antisemitism but nobody attacking him could provide anything of substance.
As far as I recall, he attended a funeral where one of the other guests had loose ties to an extremist group.
Some flimsy bullshit like that is why the next general election is going to be a choice between fascism and a feckless centrist party led by a wooden doll that wishes it was a real Tony Blair 😮💨
Guilt by association? I hate that it worked and I hate that people who are sympathetic to Israel would stoop so low.
Yeah, I couldn’t agree more tbh. I tried, but turns out there isn’t a higher level of agreement than “total” 🤷
Don’t you know? The Zionist definition of “antisemitism” includes “literally any criticism of their genocidal apartheid ethnostate, including pointing out that it is, in fact, a genocidal apartheid ethnostate.”
We need about 200 more AOCs <3
In general, yes, but not based on this.
Not really. She is an idealist and visionary. She has an idea for what the future of the country should be, but, from what I have seen, she never gets too deep in the details of how to achieve it. We need people like her to say that we should not be using fossil fuels to power our transportation, but we also need people who can determine how much funding the government needs to provide to put more chargers on public parking, what the fine would be for hogging the parking spot, how many parking enforcement officers we will need to patrol them all, how much the power grid will need to be updated to provide power to the chargers…
Yes, many of the details fall to the executive branch to execute, but Congress needs to allocate funding for it, remove legal barriers, decide on penalties for non-compliance, etc.
People have to create good guys/bad guys to suit their point of view I guess. This time it’s not that easy, the picture is not that clear for most. But, the vile animalistic acts of Hamas can’t be justified in any way. Now, I expect Israel to be draconian in their approach which will light them up more.
animalistic acts
“Israel is definitely not fascist”
Don’t know about that, but this morning I read about 40 babies being murdered in their cribs. I’d like to think that no US or Israeli soldier could even contemplate doing that.
Leaving aside that this is merely an unsubstantiated claim by the IDF, why aren’t Israelis animals when they bomb children or blockade food and water?
Sure that’s like killing babies in their cribs. Well done.
Do you think babies don’t die in their cribs when they’re blown up? Or they won’t die when they can’t get food or water?
Also, I’m actually skeptical this is real. Looking at an article:
Insider was unable to independently confirm what was found, but Israeli media outlets have also reported the claim, attributing it to soldiers.
The spokesperson told Insider that although he hadn’t seen images or videos himself, “soldiers on the ground who are there told me this.”
“These people [Hamas] are animals,” Dinar added. “They have butchered women and children in worse ways than ISIS.”
Hmm! No confirmation, no evidence, just testimony.
Now your false equivalence is justified! It’s probably not true and everybody does it, right? What nonsense.
How is it a false equivalence? Israelis murder Palestinian babies with bombs and starvation and are going to murder more. Are they animals?
No. Dehumanizing the enemy is fascist shit.
(also like, IDF has every incentive to make up shit like that - I’ll wait for independent confirmation)
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Calling the DSA tankie is absolutely hilarious. They’re pretty much just a subsidiary of the democratic party.
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Examples of tankie tendencies of the DSA amd so forth? Lol this is hilarious because all the DSA does is tail democrats and cover for them.
Yeah calling the DSA tankie is the wildest take ive seen lately and that’s including all the other Palestine-Isreal threads.
And she’s not a democratic socialist by any stretch of the fevered dreams of imagination.
It’s almost like the Muslims want to exterminate Israel so if you protest Israel they show up and genocide is obviously their goal. Israel sucks but I’d never show up to an anti Israel rally for a reason.
In my experience it strongly depends on the organizers. The latest pro-palestine rally i attended was organized by some leftist organizations in coalition with local palestinians and that rally worked out very well. Some conspiracy nuts with signs how Jews rule the world were told to fuck off by some Antifa guys and everything else went very well. Also no national flags besides palestinian ones were allowed, i appreciated that a lot.
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I was a dues paying member of the DSA until this rally. I refuse to be associated with this kind of disgusting sentiment.
The group did not organize Sunday’s rally, its leadership said Monday. But several lawmakers with DSA ties are distancing themselves from what was said at the event.
Sure ya were, bud. Or, shittttt, maybe you were and just not mature enough not to let perfection be the enemy of good.
The DSA in New York promoted and supported this rally, the fact that they didn’t organize the thing directly is meaningless. I’m not associating with this kind of sentiment.
This is not a lack of perfection, this is an abhorrent cheering and support of terrorism against innocent civilians. I can direct my political efforts to the cause of progress without continuing to support a group that thinks that is acceptable.
The DSA is a sheepdog org meant to funnel radical elements of America into the Democratic Party, it’s not supposed to be used to actually do anything other than elect Democrats or support anyone other than Democrats.
