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    It’s really rich to see capitalists seething over companies leaving their country and taking jobs with them (especially if they move to China).

    Like, that is literally capitalism.

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    You need to lay off on the right-wing rag articles. This one is just repeating the typical AfD talking points.

    For someone claiming to be a “communist” you post a lot of shitty right-wing articles here, I wonder why…

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      I notice you don’t actually address the content of the article and instead resort to lazy ad hominem, I wonder why…

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        Because not every BS that some right-wing tabloid is posting is worth commenting on. And if you had done like one minute research you would have realized what kind of publication that is.

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          Well, if that’s a right-wing tabloid, why don’t you address what politico is saying here then https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-hits-emergency-button-to-save-european-industry/

          Last I checked, the facts are that Germany lost access to cheap energy and this makes input costs for production go up dramatically. Since you’re claiming that German industry moving to markets where production costs are more competitive is BS, perhaps you can explain how you think German industry will stay competitive with China and US.

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            The article you linked is mostly about France and French protectionists policies about trying to save their mostly irrelevant car industry in a shrinking market where other nations like the US and Germany are pumping subsidies into their local companies. This has very little to do with Russian gas, and frankly speaking there are way too many car companies anyways so a correction of the market is long overdue.

            I would suggest you start posting more about Canada, because you quite clearly have no idea what is going on in Europe right now.

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              I would suggest that you either address the actual points being made. This has everything to do with Russian gas. And anybody with a shred of intellectual integrity understands that an industrial nation like Germany needs access to cheap energy in order for its industry to function. You keep dancing around the elephant in the room here bud. And if you genuinely don’t understand this then you’re the one who has no idea regarding what’s going on in Europe right now.

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                Please read the article again. You clearly did not understand what it is about. Sure, lack of cheap gas is one of many factors causing economic problems right now, but this is neither what the article you linked is about, nor is it the main issue.

                You seem to have some sort of strange obsession with German/EU industry being totally dependant on Russian gas, which is mostly a right-wing talking point and the part that is indeed impacted by rising energy prices is exactly the part that has been sleeping on global developments and needs to urgently innovate regardless of availability of Russian gas or not.

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                  Please read the article again. You clearly did not understand what it is about.

                  The article says that the US is using the energy crisis in Europe to entice industry to move from Europe to US by providing subsidies while also having cheaper energy access.

                  You seem to have some sort of strange obsession with German/EU industry being totally dependant on Russian gas, which is mostly a right-wing talking point and the part that is indeed impacted by rising energy prices is exactly the part that has been sleeping on global developments and needs to urgently innovate regardless of availability of Russian gas or not.

                  You keep dismissing basic fact that 60% of the energy Europe was getting from Russia has no readily available replacement as a “right-wing talking point”. Calling it that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a correct point. Germany, is the industrial hub of Europe, and that’s precisely why it’s most affected by the incredible energy prices resulting from Europe being cut off from cheap energy.

                  You can’t urgently innovate your way out of this problem. Any alternative infrastructure will literally take years to build, and will require massive amounts of energy to do so. It’s frankly embarrassing that you can’t understand this.

                  edit: also, stop pretending this is exclusively right wing talking point, unless you’re claiming Die Linke is right wing https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/die-linke-lawmaker-russia-sanctions-causing-social-and-economic-catastrophe-in-germany/

                  The only people who refuse to accept this talking point are the war hawks who want this war to last as long as possible, which is the camp you’re evidently in.