• darq@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Don’t be absurd. Systemic change is needed. Not individual charity.

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      1 year ago

      What’s your plan for systemic change? If you have none, why not try systemic individual charity?

      The average citizen will have to pay for UBI with taxes. Why not do it voluntarily?

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        1 year ago

        What’s your plan for systemic change?

        Tax the rich, redistribute wealth, stop treating basic human needs such as shelter and healthcare as profit generators.

        If you have none

        I did. Stop making stupid assumptions.

        why not try systemic individual charity?

        Please learn what words mean. There is no “systemic individual” anything.

        The average citizen will have to pay for UBI with taxes. Why not do it voluntarily?

        Because it doesn’t work, you walnut.

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          You don’t have a plan, you have a wish list. How do you want to achieve your list?

          Using insults doesn’t refute my points. Why not coordinate as citizens?

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            You don’t have a plan, you have a wish list. How do you want to achieve your list?

            I’m sorry, you expect anyone who disagrees with you on social media to write you a thesis on restructuring society, or you just ignore them?

            It’s obvious that you just want to disregard what people have to say.

            You haven’t actually written anything of substance, but I have to effortpost for you? Lol, bite me.

            Using insults doesn’t refute my points.

            You don’t have any points.

            Why not coordinate as citizens?

            Why do you think it hasn’t already worked? Why do you think charity hasn’t already accomplished what you say it will accomplish?

            Perhaps because it doesn’t actually achieve systemic change. Because the people hoarding wealth do not voluntarily distribute it.

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              Maybe because the people who hoard wealth are like everybody else and too few want to share? Why expect the billionaires to share if normal people don’t share?

              Right now is the first time in history since city state times that the citizens can talk and vote together.

              If people choose to share their income, they can do it now. The debate hasn’t happened yet.

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                Maybe because the people who hoard wealth are like everybody else and too few want to share?

                So then why are you suggesting voluntary charity if you know it doesn’t actually work? Are you being deliberately dense?

                If people choose to share their income, they can do it now. The debate hasn’t happened yet.

                It has happened, just because your head is wedged so firmly up your own ass that you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened.

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                  I see both desires, to have UBI and to lcontinue as is. I don’t know which is stronger. I am writing these comments to find out.

                  Where has the debate happened? What was the result?

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                    People are currently suffering. Every trial of UBI so far has been shown to alleviate suffering, and actually save money.

                    Open your eyes.

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                  why are you suggesting voluntary charity if you know it doesn’t actually work? Are you being deliberately dense?

                  You know he is. This dude can get fucked, I’m surprised he can type full sentences with how hard he’s bootlicking for billionaires.