Most of the memes are fine but for some reason they have one saying either AES or Russia are fascist and we’re evil tankies for critically supporting them. The comments are strange. There’s Communists saying “you sound stupid when you say “tankie”.” And then when they get a reply they’re like “obviously I don’t support AES or Russia, stop grouping me with them.” There are a couple other people defending AES with me in the comments and one is a patsoc 💀.
holy fuckin’ hell, Anarchists really will monetise their ideology.
It seems like every time I see a shop that sells leftist clothing it’s an Anarchist.
Also, most of their clothing looks hella bad and it makes me wonder if they made the designs themselves or if the designs are stolen. Also, if they hate AES and capitalism, where do they source their shirts from? Seems pretty damn hypocritical to shit on AES, and then utilize AES labour for your own profit.
When your ideology is primarily individualist and largely aesthetic, you end up with a ton of people who treat their political orientation as a fashion statement.
Speaking as an ex-anarchist, there’s a massive trend in anarchism to not be focused on the ideological distinctions between the plethora of anarchist subtypes but instead to align oneself to a flavour of anarchism which is most appealing.
In communist thought you have very clear distinctions which are based on theoretical and practical disagreements (practical in the sense of socialism being put into practice); you have leftcoms and Trotskyists and council communists and MLs and MLMs etc. All of whom you can trace out their positions and their ideological stances from.
In anarchism it’s much more about what the individual is most attracted to as a cause than this. Sure there are platformists, DeLeonists, and egoists, for example, which fit what I’ve mentioned above about disagreements on theory and practice but you’re more likely to find an anarcha-feminist or an eco-anarchist than you will a DeLeonist or a platformist imo.
With that in mind it should come as no surprise that so much of anarchism is focused on fashion.
I met too many folk just like this in college. I considered myself an ancom. I knew an anarcho-syndicalist, ecosocialist, democratic socialist, guild socialist, libertarian socialist, Christian anarchist…
I can’t fault them or myself too much, we are taught to identify with ANYTHING but Marxism-Leninism. I was the edgiest one of the lot for daring to even identify with “communism” (albeit in its softer, less threatening anarchoform.) We agreed on pretty much everything, yet we all identified our politics as meaningfully different based on what we named them.
Continued study of imperialism and self-criticism turned most of us into genuine communists. Some got tired of radical politics and became Hilary stans. One’s a pastor and a patsoc who believes in literal demons and performs exorcisms and shit.
The U.S. left is in an absolute state.
Yeah, more broadly the western left is in shambles but to see how (comparatively) rapidly it’s shaping up gives me hope.
This could be representative of the circles I’ve moved in with my own political journey but MLism wasn’t even on the table. Heck, being a revolutionary wasn’t really either. If you look at, say, the anti-globalisation protests and the anti-war movement(s) around the bush era the left was mostly what I’d characterise as being extremely progressive. There was a time when Naomi Klein was extremely influential on this cohort.
Nowadays Klein isn’t a name I see brought up in the left except for the very rare mention of her underrated documentary The Take because the left is much more radical now than she is.
There was a time where the compatible left was the left and it didn’t have to go around proclaiming that Marxism-Leninism is a “dead ideology” which, if you look at it from the perspective of Implicature or you’re a bit Hegelian about it, it’s pretty obvious that if Marxism-Leninism really was dead then nobody would need to proclaim this fact because:
a) It would be self-evident; nobody needs to proclaim that Manichaeism is dead because it’s already true
b) It would be irrelevant to say as much since it is already dead; I’d venture that most people haven’t got a clue what Manichaeism even is because Manichaeism truly is dead
The opposite is true for Marxism-Leninism.
Nowadays there’s a couple of major splits within the radical and circa-radical left, as I see it:
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There’s the essentially silent movement where people log off, touch grass, and are dedicated to organising in their communities. This isn’t really seen unless you’re embedded in an org or an online circle where you know people in it and you see them check out of their online presence in favour of on the ground work. But it’s certainly happening although because this shift is predicated upon not announcing it online and not constantly touting it on social media it is largely invisible.
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There’s the radical left vs the compatible left split. This is where you see one side sheepdogging everyone to vote for the Dems and denouncing tankies as “ruining the left for everyone else” etc. vs the people who are capable of critiquing the progressive left and doing self-crit on the actual left who engage in materialist analysis and serve as the spectre haunting the internet because they are more organised, generally much better informed and more well-versed in theory etc.
The fact that Marxism-Leninism is on the rise is no accident. People have seen the failures of movements like Occupy and the CHAZ and they’ve learned from them. The material conditions have rapidly changed over the past two decades and I’d argue that this has a significant impact on people’s ideological positions. Your political development arc mirrors that of a lot of people who are now communist too.
If you take PatSocs, as an example, this was essentially a line struggle that developed in the broader western left. I’d say that it’s pretty much dead in the water now, thankfully. But there was a split in the ideological positions and the western left hashed out its position on regressive nationalism extremely rapidly. This is characteristic of a vital movement that is thriving and honing itself and that alone is worth celebrating because it means that not only is there enough people in a movement to cause a split(!!) but the movement is developing and it will continue to do so with future splits too.
To go from “Oh no, we must be conscious consumers and stop supporting sweatshops with our hard earned cash!!” to “Let’s set up camp outside Wall Street and… idk but we’ll figure out the rest later lol” to “We are going to read Marx and Lenin and we’re going to seize the state by force” is a very promising development arc.
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When your ideology is primarily individualist and largely aesthetic, you end up with a ton of people who treat their political orientation as a fashion statement.
Speaking as an ex-anarchist, there’s a massive trend in anarchism to not be focused on the ideological distinctions between the plethora of anarchist subtypes but instead to align oneself to a flavour of anarchism which is most appealing.
There’s a lot of “no veggies at dinner, no bedtimes” empty hedonistic self-described “anarchists” out there. They’re barely even leftist except in a passive way and just want people to NOT TELL THEM WHAT TO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Add “no bosses” to that list too.
Y’all think that any sort of construction or manufacturing is going to run in a self-organised fashion without foremen? Lol, good luck.
If you’ve never worked in a factory before, that’s cool but there are much better ways of announcing this fact and I think that it’s important to remember the old “No investigation, no right to speak” or, in their terms “In the matter of boots, I refer to the authority of the bootmaker”.
I try not to focus too much on these types because I’m convinced that a couple of years of touching grass, working for a living, and spending time doing on the ground organising will bring these infantile urges in people to a conclusion in all but the most stubborn-minded. Although you can cut through these naive ideological positions by tracing out how there was (vulgar) vanguardism in their favourite historical socialist projects and how leadership was crucial to their functioning. That being said I have more important things to do with my time than engaging people with discussions on that stuff tbh.
Leftist branded designer clothing is so ridiculously cringy.
Except if you buy from https://deprogramshop.com/ for fall merch/j
At least some Deprogram ones are funny, I love the “state affiliated media” and “remember what you are fighting for” with the US hellhole picture
Ew
it makes me wonder if they made the designs themselves or if the designs are stolen.
Historically anarchists already stole the song “Whirlwinds of danger” to create “To the Barricades” amongst other examples so it wouldnt surprise me if this was the case all over again lmao
Srsly Anarchists suck ass
I can respect some who respect us and just have a less material basis of their ideology, but any of these “all authority equally bad” pricks are just total pains.
Anarchists are awful but so is homophobia
EVERY American leftist irl claims to be an Anarchist. They also focus heavily on social justice to the point of exclusivity and regurgitate memes they saw on their Instagram feed.
All of the anarchists I know support America’s war in Ukraine. Every single one. Shameless larping unprincipled losers.
Anarchists are all bark and no bite. Typical.
I realize now I was being *too charitable when I assumed they were talking about Russia as the “fascist regime” we “tankies” support. Many of the commenters are open horseshoe theorists.
There’s a liberal lurker here who I can see on my alt account on another instance but not from here (weird).
They said they hope we know Russia isn’t even nominally socialist anymore, here’s my reply.
We know. News to no one but dementia addled US politicians.
But we support Russia obviously. Because it’s fighting the evil empire. Because it’s on our side. We didn’t choose that, we have no power to make it so. Russia didn’t even want to choose that. They tried to buddy up with the capitalist west but were rejected multiple times, they’re too big and can’t be subjugated and exploited so they’re a threat that must be fragmented into manageable pieces or isolated. The west chose that. They beat them and backed them into our corner and chained them to us and after the west stabbed them in the back a few times with lies about peace (Minsk agreements, Merkel and Sarkozy admitted they were lies all along) they’ve gotten the message.
Not that Russia ever really left friendship with the oppressed peoples of the global south. Bucking the US empire and trading goods, cooperation, weapons when the west refused. Call it opportunism or realpolitik, the result not intent is what matters.
But Russia will just become an evil imperialist empire and replace the US you scream. And that’s why you’re a liberal. They can’t. Idealism, wants, dreams, propaganda do not manifest into reality. The US didn’t will itself into its place by magic. It ascended to it as the result of material and historical forces going back centuries, specifically occupying and subjugating Western European colonial empires after WW2, it took on their power, assumed the reins over them and agreed to share the spoils. Various forces and reasons assure us the US will not hand over its crown to Russia peacefully as Europe did to the US. In fact even now Russia’s resistance, heroic, is inspiring Africans to push the French out. When all is done there will be nothing the west is left holding onto to barter with or hand to Russia, no colonial holdings. Russia cannot simply re-subjugate Africa or Asia or Latin America in a decade once they stand up. The original conditions which led to it don’t exist.
But we support Russia obviously. Because it’s fighting the evil empire. Because it’s on our side.
Thanks for being honest about it! Seriously, that does clear things up. Obviously I think you’re completely nuts. You’re deceived into believing that a fascist dictatorship that you presumably have little real relationship with (otherwise you’d know better) is “on your side” in a fight against an illusion called “The West.” I’m still finding it kind of hard to get used to this particular brand of nonsense.
I don’t think Russia has any prospect of becoming the kind of imperial power the USA once was. They’re both fading superpowers lashing out violently in desperate attempts to maintain their former influence. It’s not 1962 any more. They no longer represent two “sides” that the rest of the world need to align themselves with, if they ever really did.
I call them Anarkonutil for a reason.
Why? What does the latter part mean/what is it derived from?
Dumbass in either Spanish or Portuguese
It’s at least not Portuguese. Is it from “inutil”? That means “useless” if so.
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either AES or Russia
Hate to break it to you, but Russia isn’t even nominally socialist any more.
