Musk is told his platform, now known as X, must comply with new laws designed to combat fake news and Russian propaganda

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    Oh ffs, stop warning him, he already knows and still does not comply. He does not care. Just throw the hammer at him, this he will understand.

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        Can we not do this? It’s so pathetic.

        Just like how the US supposedly, “grinds slow but grinds fine”. No. A literal traitor having YEARS of freedom is NOT justice of any sort. Warning a rich piece of shit that they’re violating laws for the 1100th time IS NOT justice.

        Stop pretending laws are applied remotely evenly or remotely expeditiously on the rich. It’s blatantly and obviously not true.

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        “You haff ignored the requisite 10 varnings. You only haff three more varnings before ve vill be forced to fine you €6B”

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      I’m just happy to see the EU take these important first steps towards actually punishing him and others like him. They’re the only governmental organization around the world that’s actually doing something thoughtful.

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      You’re missing the part where Musk owns half of them. They meet privately with him to kiss his feet when they visit the UN

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      Twitter actually got sued in Germany for failure to moderate hate speech already, that could cost him 33 billion euros!

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      You realize Americans are not subject to German law, yes?

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        That’s … not how reality works. Sure, a rich guy isn’t going to get it, but if you do something bad enough in Germany and run to the US, the US will ABSOLUTELY ship you back to Germany so that you can be under the jurisdiction of their laws. Even if you were a US citizen.

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          So I can post something illegal in Germany on the Internet and you think that I should be extradited?

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            That’s kind of what is happening with Kim DotCom. He’s been in New Zealand for years and never set foot in the US, but he is accused of conspiring to distribute pirated material that belongs to American corporations. He supposedly broke US law, while in New Zealand, and has never been to the US.

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              I think that was violating multiple international copyright and software patent agreements (i.e. megaupload), not him violating some specific US Law. And he was going to be tried in the US, but he could have just as easily been tried in Germany or whatever. Unless you are referring to something more specific.

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            Nope, but my point is extradition treaties exist. It’s not up to me what the US or German governments ship people over for, but they can and will help each other to reach out past borders.

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              Ok sure. A Government can do whatever it wants in collaboration with another government. regardless of laws, rights, morality, or anything that can be enforced via violence. But I don’t really see that as a “gotcha” or something that you should bring up in normal conversation.

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                They aren’t ignoring laws to do it. It’s literally a legal agreement. This started as a comment about what laws people are subject to. If you cannot understand how pointing out that they legally reach out past their borders to make people subject to laws everywhere is relevant… You might need to work on reading comprehension.

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                  So let me ask you directly. Am I, as a US Citizen, living in the US, and currently in the US, subject to German Laws? To be clear I understand that extradiction treaty’s exist. But that only applies if I break German Law, while I’m in Germany, not in any other situation.

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        Realize? Yes. Holding the thinnest shred of hope for some forgotten treaty agreement? Also yes.

        I’d also settle for any country telling him to fuck right off with any of his business if he continues to be a bag of shit. That might also work.

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          That’s probably what will end up happening. But how? Is the EU going to ban Twitter traffic like China does?

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            If I had to guess it would get DNS blocked by all European providers, that’s not a effective ban if you want to deny access but it’s a death sentence for a buisness!

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    I really hope Elon given the ultimatum would go for the nuclear option and shut down Twitter in Europe.

    It wouldn’t even be out of character, I can imagine him vomiting some “free speech” nonsense on his way out.

    The company stock price would halve, but at the speed it is already going down it wouldn’t even register.

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      The company stock price would halve.

      Elon took it private, it doesn’t have a stock price anymore. But it does have a valuation, which is basically it’s appraisal value, and that’s already significantly lower than what he paid for it.

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        It was valued at roughtly a third but that was before the rebrand, now it’s probably quite a bit lower!

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    Why does anyone even still use it? I never saw the appeal even before the takeover, now it baffles me. It’s such a horrible interface

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      Yes the interface makes no sense, you can’t tell who’s replying to who. Sometimes the replies are above the comment they’re replying to, sometimes below. Still it’s a good place to get information that’s censored by America’s great firewall, which is why this article is a case in point.

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    Don’t warn. Act. Fine him. It won’t hurt him much, but would generate additional funds for European needs. Actively create Fediverse accounts that interact with the public. And so on…

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    nothing like a stern warning to swiftly correct a billionaire megalomaniac destructive antics in my experience.

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    That’s it Mr. Musk, sir. You’re officially on notice. (I hope that’s ok, sir?)

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    I’ve been following Scott Adams (The Dilbert guy. No, not Jim Davis. The Dilbert guy!) and this is obviously misinformation and a hoax. The only accurate news comes from X. If you still get your news from the leftist media, you’re being brainwashed.

    (obviously sarcasm. Downvote me for following Adams, not for misunderstanding my sarcasm.)

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      Scott Adams? You mean the guy who writes books about obvious self-insert characters who are so much smarter than everyone else because they are influencers?

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        I was so Happy (capital intended) when he was featured on Behind the Bastards. I didn’t think he was interesting enough to merit even one episode, but now the host is reading Scott’s books, and they are complete dogshit.

        Scott’s rationalwiki entry is a joy to read.

        • ☭ Blursty ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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          That website is a right wing cesspit. They even have a page on the Uighur genocide conspiracy theory that’s more ridiculous than the one on wikipedia.

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          I’m just not sure I get which part is sarcastic. Are you actually following him? Do you like the things he says or just want to see what his crazy ass is up to?

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            I follow him on Twitter, and I like the things he says, because he’s such a crackpot. His crazy ass doesn’t really do much except tweet and draw some pretty unfunny cartoons. Sometimes the garbage he says almost gets me to respond, then I remember I’m not supposed to tap on the glass.