Was thinking about what it would be like living under a post-capitalist system and this thought came into my head. Are there any behaviors or triggers associated with previously having lived in a capitalist system that still manifest in people who have lived in a capitalist system even when they are no longer doing so?

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      Is that real?

      Because if it is these people are in for a rude awakening. They’ve actually internalized the propaganda that hard jobs pay the most. but that’s not true at all lmao.

      Enjoy being more tired at the end of the day than you’ve ever been, desk jockey. Not saying that only manual or physical jobs are hard but the idea that you’re escaping hard work is insane to actually believe. and that is likely an overstated or exceptional example lol.

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          Honestly, most of their complaints just boil down to alienation and exploitation. One of them said their cleaning job made them feel like they were actually doing something. They complain about having to be constantly on the job to answer emails and stuff. Just wish they would realize that it was capitalism instead of a corporate job that was doing it to them.

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          Strange article, isn’t it?

          On the one hand it’s trying to portray a AU$100k job as being at the top of the corporate ladder (there’s a strong ideological function in this framing). On the other hand it seems that AU$100k is just middle management. Either that or cleaners are paid exceptionally well in Australia.

          Of course middle management is going to be stressful and unrewarding – you’re only there to deliver the bosses orders and the boss takes a wager that you don’t need to be bribed very much to be a dickhead to everyone below you.

          As @carpe_modo@lemmygrad.ml pointed out, it seems the guy bought into the dream and realised that companies are run for the shareholders, so what Paul (not pictured @treadonmedaddy@lemmygrad.ml) is facing is his own exploitation and alienation.

          Still, I bet Maccy D’s is enjoying the publicity and the message that it’s jobs pay just enough to live on and are rewarding. And that might be true enough, but it’ll be treated as a mantra the next time the workers ask for a pay rise: ‘but don’t you know we can replace you with people who want to be happy’.

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            I had a very similar thought that this could be a pr stunt to funnel people into this kind of employment right at the height of a labor shortage.

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        Wait till they get physically overworked for hours on a 10+ hour shift

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        their manager threatens them with firing because they didn’t upsell enough McFries™

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        they get abuse hurled at them hourly by abusive customers

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        when their feet get sore and calloused from standing all shift and athletes foot from stood on a soaking bar and their joints and body hurts from the work

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        when they burn themselves working with hot equipment or when they finish a grueling day of work to find they earn less than some people pay for a round of drinks in a bar

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        they don’t have Union representation and protection

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        when they get told by everyone around them that they’re an unskilled scab despite people needing their industry to buy shit

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        when travel to and from work is half your daily wage but you’ve got to work the smaller shifts and lose money otherwise your manager won’t give you more shifts

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        Having to work insanely unsociable hours at night or during holidays because capitalism.

        What a fucking disconnected shite article. I worked in hospitality for 6 years before, during and after uni and after going into desk work yes there is stress and mental exhaustion from scummy work practises and the like but the idea of going back to hospitality when my work was potentially closing made me breakdown in tears and have a panic attack. The idea of sitting behind a desk with three times the pay (entry level) does not elicit that response.

        Get 👏 a 👏 fucking 👏 grip 👏