Olvid, an instant messaging application made in France, is more secure than WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram and others. Unlike competing apps, Olvid doesn’t claim

I’ve tried it a bit.

It seems to be essentially Signal but with usernames instead of phone numbers, a paying option to be able to create video calls, and it forces you to verify keys before beginning to talk, using an other channel.

This makes it in theory harder to get compromised, but greatly hurts the experience of creating a new channel with someone, especially if they’re not physically next to you. Feature wise it’s a bit behind (no reacts for example), and the UI of Signal is better looking.

For the moment it’s still not open source (though they claim on their website that it will be) and the security certification they received from the ANSSI is one that is done without access to the source code.

The fact that it’s French and not American is a plus.

Also, to create a new conversation, you are forced to use a QR code or a link, you can’t just have the other person type your username to be able to contact you.


Had not seen this either but good for France in taking ownership of the problem. About 3 years ago or so their government also adopted Matrix as their own hosted secure messenger platform for government, and produced their own forked version of Element/Riot app to go with it.


@nutomic@lemmy.ml what do you think of this app?


I have never heard of it before, and with 10k downloads it seems extremely small. Matrix has way more than that and is fully open source and federated, so I would just use that.


Okay that makes sense. But then what about wire?

That ticks all the boxes - open source, doesn’t require phone number, is based in Switzerland, etc.

It also has a killer feature nothing else has - sketch. You don’t realise how addictive it is until you try it.


I tried that once but didnt the design of the Android app at all, very different from other apps. Since then I didnt try it again, because I have better things to do than trying out messengers all day long 😃


Yeah, I fundamentally distrust any security software that’s not open source because there is no way to verify that the software is doing what it says it’s doing. Privacy and security cannot be based on trust.

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