I’m in the market for a new laptop. I’m currently considering the Framework 16 but I’m wondering if there’s anything else I should look at. The System 76 Adder WS seems like a better value, but I’m hesitant to buy Nvidia.

I don’t need anything super portable, just looking for a decently powerful laptop for some gaming and other basic tasks. I use openSUSE TW but even with the Nvidia repo I’ve had issues with Nvidia graphics.

  • jet@hackertalks.com
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    i recommend nvidia geforce now for game streaming, if your ok with some latency. then you dont need to get a gpu at all

    Then your laptop requirements become super easy. I’m running a framework 13 and am quite happy with it.

    The only down side is no coreboot, but I think repairable hardware is more important at the moment.

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      I don’t understand how people can use game streaming for anything besides something like a puzzle game, input response time absolutely kills me

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        I tried it with Cyberpunk 2077 and the latency was so low I couldn’t notice it. I had no issues weaving in and out of traffic at high speeds.

        It’s really a matter of whether your ISP can handle it. Many of those in the US cannot because there’s not a lot of regulations regarding the minimum quality of service they have to provide.

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          Also depends on where the servers are - latency probably won’t be great if you’re on the literal opposite side of the world from the servers that you’re streaming the game from!

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          Interesting. I’m in Canada, maybe it’s worse up here.

          I had an old manager telling me about the 5ms ping he had when living in the states. In my mind anything below 100 was great

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        My ping to the server is usually less than 10ms on wifi, and sometimes less than 5ms on a wired connection, so I’ve found that most games work fine. After all, that’s lower latency than some displays.

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        GeForce now, and shadow, both let you test your connection to see how good it is. Basically you need a low latency and low jitter internet connection. To the data center.

        The maximum latency you want is 40 milliseconds, and you want low jetter. Then you’re going to have a good experience. Obviously the lower the latency the better.

        Speed.cloudflare.com is a good basic test, it’ll tell you what your average latency is to cloudflare, and your jitter is. If that’s good then game streaming might work for you.

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      You would be much better off using an egpu with the laptop. The latency from streaming is terrible.